I don't know about that. Look at the kids in the military. The whiners, I believe, are a small subset that have been indoctrinated by elite colleges. See, e.g., AOC. Of course they are going to suffer if they took out $100,000 in loans to get a degree in gender studies or some other worthless degree. There is not much you can do about stupid. See, e.g., Hap. But they are also a bunch of loud mouths. See, e.g., AOC. So we constantly have to hear their whining. But a ot of them are good folks.

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Yeah, but there is a balance. It will never be good enough for the virtue signalers. Nobody gets anything done by saying "you know what? We are doing alright but we can improve on X, Y, and Z". Everything has to be a crisis.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

These kids with their Rock n Roll music and their spliffs and protests.

They never had to sleep in a trench or eat human flesh! Fools don't know how good they've got it



These kids with their Sun at the center of the Universe..


These kids with their seeds and agriculture.. they've never had to hunt and gather..


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Edited: 06/14/2019 at 07:16 AM by fishkller

Improved since the industrial revolution? Things got progressively worse until the 1980s. It's only been the last couple of years since the really tight regs on diesel formulations kicked in that you can fairly regularly across the Shenandoah Valley from Hawksbill peak to the Appalachians over to the WVA border. As for grant money, the are studies funded to track progress. Forest cover, air quality, water quality such as improvements in Lake Griffin associated with reconnection of the lake to Emerelda Marsh. Grants usually fund a question. Possible problems get more funding but retrospective studies to see if something worked or not are also funded. Not everything has improved either. Look at the algae problem in Florida or the decline in coral health... You'll have to point out the Democrat plan to make them citizens that are eligible to vote.

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"They talk about millennials being soft and pampered and entitled, well I'm quick to say then you've seen them in a firefight in Afghanistan... this is a fabulous generation and anybody that worries about the future of the U.S., I don't think you need to worry." --Admiral McRaven

Edited: 06/14/2019 at 07:28 AM by Greensleeves

That's a pile of absolutist straw man arguments. It seriously lacks historical perspective for how full laissez faire capitalism with no back stop has panned out in the past. She really needs to read Marx and Engels; not as a prescription for what should be done when inequality is huge but as a warning for what happens if society becomes a couple of fat cats sitting on top of a heap of serfs in sweat shops. Or does she really see say Norway and North Korea/Venezuala as equivalent situations because Norway has a lot of socialism?

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Where are the stories in the news letting people know that global tree coverage has been on the rise for decades? Let's face it, there is a wealth of good news about the environment and society but good news doesn't sell shit. Keeping people whipped up into a frenzy sells shit.

Are you saying that Democrats are against illegals voting? Are you against illegals voting?

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Why doesn't Sniper attempt to post the good news he is talking about?

"In response to a federal report published last week on the serious economic consequences of climate change, President Trump told reporters he does not "believe" the findings. "I've seen it. I've read some of it. It's fine," he said Monday. "I don't believe it... Right now we're at the cleanest we're ever been."

Whipped into a frenzy? Sniper doesn't get it. The Earth is going to $hit and we can do things to help the future of this planet now.

Of course Democrats are against illegals voting. WTF?

Edited: 06/14/2019 at 08:12 AM by Greensleeves

that is one exception to the rule for sure. very narrow lense though

He's also conveniently ignoring that the oligarchs are running the EPA now and undoing a lot of the regulatory structure that has improved air and water quality in the US since 1970. They are undoing the Chesapeake Bay Agreement for fucks sake. It has taken 40 years to start holding the line on water quality in the bay and they are rolling that shit right back. Fuck controlling nitrogen and trying to under the hyper eutrophication that wiped out all the SAV in the bay.

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I work with millennials and am the father of new generation persons. They rule.

Why older generations are infatuated with talking $hit about young people I will never understand.

Sounds like we probably disagree on both of these points.

I tend to be of the point of view that the climate is changing and humans have impacted it but it is not, nor will it ever be a catastrophic problem that we can change by taxing people more, regulating businesses, or shutting down industry. The climate is always changing and always have been. People owe it to themselves and to each other to be good stewards of the planet. However, we could go back to living as we did in the stone-age and it wouldn't be good enough for some. Unfortunately, those people are always the loudest.

I don't believe for a single second that if Democrats in Washington thought they could find a way to grant illegals the right to vote that they would vote against it.



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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Edited: 06/14/2019 at 08:35 AM by Sniper

Hey everyone Sniper says it is going to be OK! There is an arc load of evidence to the contrary but he's good with the risk. Certainly no need to tax y'all since money is the most important thing to everyone.

Oil and the Pope

The United States (except the GOP anymore) knows the climate is changing


Oh and evil Democrats want immigrants to vote. GOP wants y'all pregnant and uneducated so there's that.



Edited: 06/14/2019 at 09:12 AM by Greensleeves

Just think of how naive it is of humans to think we can control the temperature on earth like a thermostat, control the severity of storms, etc by governments charging people more money for their energy and exercising greater control over their day-to-day habits.

Unfortunately, like many other things these days, climate science has been politicized. For every person genuinely interested in the science, there are three more who are hellbent on using this issue as a power-grab.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

millennials got their reputation fairly. just like baby boomers have. there are always exceptions, but it isnt old people talking shit about them anymore than it is young people talking shit about boomers

"Just think of how naive it is of humans to think we can control the temperature on earth like a thermostat"

We already did! It's getting warmer because of us.

Just think of how naive it is to think humans could pollute the rivers and waterways...

Hey we did that too!

what is naive is to think that we can just indiscriminately release our waste into our environment without harmful effects. We can't burn our trash in a pile in the backyard, or let our shit just flow untreated into the canal. Emmisions from our cars are the same thing. I guess pigs can live happy in their own shit, people, not so much.

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Although some people think that the wind will just blow away any air pollution

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"I remember South Africa in the late 70's, sleeping on the beach at J-bay, smoking ganja with the blacks. On weekends we'd go to the pub in East London to drink beer and fight with the Afrikaners. They liked to fight, I liked to fight. It was a good time"

Is that why the Trump administration green-lighted unregulated valley fill? Is that why Florida DEP has never met a TMDL it would actually enforce?

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