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Topic Title: What's to come in Venezuela? Topic Summary: If the past is any prediction Created On: 02/13/2019 12:43 PM |
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02/13/2019 12:43 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Mozote_massacre
On the afternoon of December 10, 1981, units of the Salvadoran army's Atlacatl Battalion, which was created in 1980 at the U.S. Army's School of the Americas,[5] arrived at the remote village of El Mozote after a clash with guerrillas in the vicinity.[6] The Atlacatl was a "Rapid Deployment Infantry Battalion" specially trained for counter-insurgency warfare. It was the first unit of its kind in the Salvadoran armed forces and was trained by United States military advisors. During the morning, they proceeded to interrogate, torture, and execute the men in several locations.[9] Around noon, they began taking the women and older girls in groups, separating them from their children and machinegunning them after raping them.[10] Girls as young as 10 were raped, with soldiers reportedly heard bragging how they especially liked the 12-year-old girls.[11] Finally, they killed the children at first by slitting their throats, then by hanging them from trees, with one child as young as two years old.[12] After killing the entire population, the soldiers set fire to the buildings. News of the massacre first appeared in the world media on January 27, 1982, in reports published by The New York Times[14] and The Washington Post. Raymond Bonner wrote in the Times of seeing "the charred skulls and bones of dozens of bodies buried under burned-out roofs, beams, and shattered tiles".[14] The villagers gave Bonner a list of 733 names, mostly children, women, and old people, all of whom, they claimed, had been murdered by government soldiers The conservative organization Accuracy in Media accused the Times and Post of timing their stories to release them just before the congressional debate. Five months later, Accuracy in Media devoted an entire edition of its AIM Report to Bonner in which its editor Reed Irvine declared, "Mr. Bonner had been worth a division to the communists in Central America."[16] Assistant Secretary of State for Inter-American Affairs Thomas Enders attacked Bonner and Guillermoprieto before a Senate committee, stating that there had been a battle between guerrillas and the army, but "no evidence could be found to confirm that government forces systematically massacred civilians." Enders also repeated the claim that only 300 people had lived in Mozote, and it was impossible for the death toll to have reached that reported in the Times and Post stories.[17] On February 8, Elliott Abrams, Assistant Secretary of State for Human Rights and Humanitarian Affairs, told the committee that "it appears to be an incident that is at least being significantly misused, at the very best, by the guerrillas." In 1992, as part of the peace settlement established by the Chapultepec Peace Accords signed in Mexico City on January 16 of that year, the United Nations-sanctioned Commission on the Truth for El Salvador investigating human rights abuses committed during the war supervised the exhumations of the El Mozote remains by an Argentinian team of forensic specialists beginning November 17. The excavation confirmed the previous reports of Bonner and Guillermoprieto that hundreds of civilians had been killed on the site ------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti Edited: 02/13/2019 at 12:45 PM by RustyTruck |
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02/13/2019 12:58 PM
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Rusty
Now sure this is a good comparison. In the El Sal case the rogue US govt provided an unprecedented amount of military hardware to suppress a civilian revolt, with tragic consequence. I'm sure that even the vile and corrupt Trump regime will not support the Maduro debacle. However, it can be assured that Maduros goons will massacre the population at some point. I expect that Trump meeting with the Prez of Columbia bods for some type of action. Columbia probably thinks it needs a wall more than Trump thinks we need one. ------------------------- So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off. |
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02/13/2019 01:03 PM
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With Trump in charge, what could go wrong?
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02/13/2019 01:14 PM
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Well, at least some of the food aid we've sent is getting in. Platano Maduro says they don't need it. Russia tells US to stay out of Venezuelan affairs. WTF?
I don't think the Colombians are so concerned about a fence. Many Colombians in the border towns have welcomed the Venezuelans, out of gratitude for the number of Colombians accepted by Venezuela during Colombia's clusterf*ck. |
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02/13/2019 01:23 PM
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I'm not sure that Maduro's "goons" are worse than Guido's goons, but historically wherever Elliot Abrams has been involved in America there has been murder.
"Guatemala - Abrams assured military aid to the Guatemalan dictator Efrain Rios Montt, who came to power after a coup in 1982. Abrams defended Ríos Montt when he oversaw a campaign of mass murder and torture of indigenous people in Guatemala. Ríos Montt was later convicted of genocide against the Maya-Ixil population." Nica - Abrams solicited 10 Million from the Sultan of Brunei for the "contras" but the money was "lost" And he's no stranger to Venezuela, "The London Observer said that Abrams had advance knowledge of, and "gave a nod to," the Venezuelan coup attempt of 2002 against Hugo Chávez." So whatever shithead Maduro is, anyone telling you that we are supporting Guido for "human rights" and "democracy" is full of shit. They have resources, we want a piece of the action, and dead brown people are just a cost of doing business. ------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti Edited: 02/13/2019 at 01:26 PM by RustyTruck |
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02/13/2019 02:34 PM
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Maduro has killed plenty already via starvation and lack of medical care.
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02/13/2019 03:11 PM
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That's no justification for U.S. intervention, especially not led by a war criminal.
------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti |
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