http://www.npr.org/2018/11/11/...-remembrance-ceremony


Its exactly what Trump needs to learn, and since he doesn't read or bother with anything that requires an attention span, he will probably be furious when someone explains to him that Macron was talking directly about him.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Sure, let's become France. You progs are full of great ideas.

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Better France, than Nazi Germany, i.e. your obvious choice.

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I was right.

Europe has grown weary of the trump show.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Being patriotic and not nationalistic means becoming France? You need to consult your talking points and determine if the GOP is still going with Freedom fries.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Patriotic is nationalistic. What is with you guys? Definition of nationalism 1 : loyalty and devotion to a nation Definition of patriotism : love for or devotion to one's country Synonyms for patriotism Synonyms nationalism Merriam Webster.

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Patriotism is based on affection and nationalism is rooted in rivalry and resentment.

One can say that nationalism is militant by nature and patriotism is based on peace.

Most nationalists assume that their country is better than any other, whereas patriots believe that their country is one of the best and can be improved in many ways.
Patriots tend to believe in friendly relations with other countries while some nationalists don't.

In patriotism, people all over the world are considered equal but nationalism implies that only the people belonging to one's own country should be considered one's equal.

A patriotic person tends to tolerate criticism and tries to learn something new from it, but a nationalist cannot tolerate any criticism and considers it an insult.

Nationalism makes one to think only of one's country's virtues and not its deficiencies. Nationalism can also make one contemptuous of the virtues of other nations. Patriotism, on the other hand, pertains to value responsibilities rather than just valuing loyalty towards one's own country.

Nationalism makes one try to find justification for mistakes made in the past, while patriotism enables people to understand both the shortcomings and improvements made.


http://www.differencebetween.n...riotism/#ixzz5WeiWqgOr

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Given the amount of blood America has spilled for France, it seems like Marcron might seem a bit more grateful at an event like this, instead of trying to lecture us like a pompous twat. They weren't there to talk economics.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Edited: 11/12/2018 at 10:01 AM by Sniper

So, if Trump had come out and said that he is a patriot instead of a nationalist, you would be singing Trump's praises? No you wouldn't. Spare us the sophistry.

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If Trump came out and said he was a Patriot he would be liar.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

A WWI memorial service is not the time to talk about the demons of nationalism.

face >palm

Marcron referenced Trump's "America-first" stance specifically. Making France, Germany, and others pay their fair share isn't exactly Nazism.

Macron is only talking about economics. France doesn't want to pay more.

And yes, Macron lecturing one of countries who saved his country's ass from the danger of Nazis, on this topic is pretty funny.


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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Edited: 11/12/2018 at 01:38 PM by Sniper

That's probably an inside joke that Trump doesn't get because he just shoots from the hip and gets uses his speech writers debriefing like he's running with a handful of water.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.