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Topic Title: Berkeley Scholar: Climate Change Is Officially Dead. But Blame Activists, Not Trump.
Topic Summary: "Causes that live by politics, die by politics."
Created On: 06/05/2018 04:33 PM
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 06/07/2018 02:21 PM
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Greensleeves

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minnow muncher the slave of the right. A hateful liar that would rather deny the truth than admit his cause is idiotic.
 06/07/2018 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by: Greensleeves

minnow muncher the slave of the right. A hateful liar that would rather deny the truth than admit his cause is idiotic.


Stage 1: Experts and activists call attention to a public problem.

Stage 2: The "alarmed media and political class discover the issue" and often stir up "euphoric enthusiasm ... as activists conceive the issue in terms of global peril and salvation."

Stage 3: The "hinge," characterized by "a gradually spreading realization that the cost of 'solving' the problem is very high indeed."

Stage 4: The "gradual decline in the intensity of public interest in the problem."

Stage 5: A "prolonged limbo - a twilight realm of lesser attention or spasmodic recurrences of interest," which often involves "painful trade-offs" that activists simply aren't willing to make.
Climate change is clearly in this fifth and final stage, he explains, where activists are blocking viable solutions as a result of their ideology, including social justice activism and their "utopian" environmental vision:
A case in point is climate campaigners' push for clean energy, whereas they write off nuclear power because it doesn't fit their green utopian vision. A new study of climate-related philanthropy by Matthew Nisbet found that of the $556.7 million green-leaning foundations spent from 2011-15, "not a single grant supported work on promoting or reducing the cost of nuclear energy." The major emphasis of green giving was "devoted to mobilizing public opinion and to opposing the fossil fuel industry."


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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
 06/08/2018 07:12 AM
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Greensleeves

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Oh here's an example:

1. Discrimination in the deep south in the early 60's is BS
2. The alarmed media reports on the grassroots activities of black and sympathetic whites
3. Douche bag hateful whites in the south spread lies about the cost of change
4. The douche bags realize they have lost the day as change is inevitable but they remain stupid and hateful
5. A prolonged limbo as the rest of the country has to endure until the day the hateful stupid $hits die and go to hell
 06/08/2018 07:40 AM
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1. Acid rain is dropping the pH of streams and lakes in watersheds with particular soil characteristics so low that they are becoming sterile. Ecologists and foresters bang on about the problem for awhile.

2. Media finally picks up on the problem and the political class starts to make noise about regulating sulfur emissions.

3. The Heartland Institute et al. tried to create a "hinge" by claiming that the cost of solving the problem would destroy the country. Many even claimed that the problem was entirely fake and was just being used by communist eco-Nazis to destroy capitalism (never hear or read anything like that anymore :rolleyes)

4. Public interest did move on to the next shiny thing butt...

5. The issue didn't get stuck in limbo. Cap And Trade program was established for sulfur emissions and over a few decades the problem got better and better. Today life is returning to some of the acidified waters.



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 06/08/2018 07:46 AM
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scombrid

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1. Smog. Holy shit the smog was terrible in the 1970s.

2. Yeah, media and political class got noisy about it. Clean Air Act was passed and subsequent regulations were phased in over decades.

3. Industry played the "hinge" game. Cars would be too expensive. The problem is fake. The problem costs too much to fix. People in "non-attainment" areas resented that they had to have their cars pass sniffer tests and such.

4. Public largely forgot about it because our air quality is a lot better even though the phase-in took decades.

5. Another issue that didn't get stuck in limbo despite Heartland et al.'s attempt to put it there. I remember going to the mountains in the 1980s and the I-81 corridor was so smoggy that it was rare to be able to see across the great valley in the summer. Trucks belched like coal locomotives pulling the hills. Even when I worked SNP in the 1990s the smog and ozone were bad. But I just read a paper recently that the air quality at SNP is the best that it has been in a very very long time.



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 06/14/2018 07:19 AM
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Oh here's an example:

1. Discrimination in the deep south in the early 60's is BS
2. The alarmed media reports on the grassroots activities of black and sympathetic whites
3. Douche bag hateful whites in the south spread lies about the cost of change
4. The douche bags realize they have lost the day as change is inevitable but they remain stupid and hateful
5. A prolonged limbo as the rest of the country has to endure until the day the hateful stupid $hits die and go to hell

That is the perfect example.
1. Liberals mistake the cause of the problem blaming discrimination in the 'deep south'
2. Democrats were the ones fighting AGAINST the blacks and sympathetic whites making the problem worse using violence to force their political views
3. The douch bags were the Democrats fighting to keep blacks down and themselves in seats of power.
4. The Republicans forced civil rights into our society by enacting LAWs but the Dems remain as stupid as ever even to the point of blaming racism on whites in the deep south.
5. The limbo is when
Democrats spread lies about Slaves being like children, unable to provide for themselves without a master.
Democrats go from keeping Blacks in slavery
to being forced to give up their slaves
to being forced to give civil rights to those former slaves
To being forced to treat them as equals under the law.
Now the Democrats still being Racists Douch bags still say the Blacks cannot provide for themselves without 'help' from benevalent whites.
The Democrats still don't recognize equality under the Law claiming that
The Blacks have a separate 'culture' that must be recognized
Thus allowing and demanding different treatment under the law for different groups based on color, percieved gender, age, afflunce,
country of origin and a hundred other different arbitrary catagories.
Their core, their souls will not allow them to recognize equality of everyone in America.
So we have to endure their hateful stupidity until they die and burn in hell.

Just so you know, it wasn't whites in the south, it is a part of the very fabric of our society,
some call it white privilege others know it is a deep in-bred racism where do gooder Liberals cannot accept Black peoples equality and independance apart from Liberal political help.
Like the slave owners of ages past they still believe that Black people like little children are unable to provide for themselves and need a benevelent overseer to help them thrive.

Oh! Cruel Republicans! It does not care if we be hungry. It does not care if we should die! Not like Master. Master cares. Master knows. Yes, Precious...



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 06/14/2018 07:41 AM
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scombrid

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Originally posted by: somebodyelse 3. The douch bags were the Democrats fighting to keep blacks down and themselves in seats of power.

News flash.

They all switched parties after Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The Republican party happily courted them as part of its southern strategy.

They have now decided to remake the Republican Party fully into their image are are the ones calling people like John McCain and the Bushes "RINO".

4. The Republicans forced civil rights into our society by enacting LAWs

159 of the 289 "yes" votes for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 were Democrats.

91 of the "no" votes were also Democrats.

>90

>90% of the "no" voting Democrats were from NC, VA, SC, TX, MS, LA, AL, GA

Those states were almost unanimous against what was a very bi-partisan bill.

Claude Pepper was the single Florida Congressman voting in favor of the act.

The Civil Rights Act 1964 was brought to pass by Industrialist Northern Bushy Republicans and Progressive Northern Democrats and it signaled a huge split in the Democratic Party that turned all those blue southern states red on the electoral map.



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 06/14/2018 08:01 AM
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Greensleeves

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nobodyelse duped again by the D vs R thing and the old south. He/she was there so it is puzzling how they still don't understand the shift of hateful racists from D to R ranks.

"Now the Democrats still being Racists Douch (sic) bags still say the Blacks cannot provide for themselves without 'help' from benevalent (sic) whites."

Who said this?

blowbuddyelse: Liberals elected the first black President. And he rocked.

 06/14/2018 05:58 PM
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Update: Antarctica is melting it's ass off.

If you listen to informative sources, you know what I'm talking about.

If you listen to Fox, you don't.

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