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Topic Title: Berkeley Scholar: Climate Change Is Officially Dead. But Blame Activists, Not Trump.
Topic Summary: "Causes that live by politics, die by politics."
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 06/05/2018 04:33 PM
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Berkeley Scholar: Climate Change Is Officially Dead. But Blame Activists, Not Trump.
"Causes that live by politics, die by politics."

ByJames Barrett
June 5, 2018

In an op-ed for The Wall Street Journal Monday, Steven F. Hayward, senior resident scholar at the Institute of Governmental Studies at the University of California, Berkeley, declared that climate change as a pre-eminent policy issue has officially "run its course." And if you're looking for someone to blame, he suggests, don't look at President Trump, look instead at left-wing activists who've let their social justice and "green utopian vision" sabotage viable solutions.

"All that remains" of the climate change political movement, writes Hayward, "is boilerplate rhetoric from the political class, frivolous nuisance lawsuits, and bureaucratic mandates on behalf of special-interest renewable-energy rent seekers." Most national governments, he explains, have been steadily "backing away from forced-marched decarbonization." The arc of climate change as a policy priority, he declares, can officially be dated from 1988 to 2018.

But while the issue has run its course in the early years of Trump's presidency, he notes, Trump's decision to pull out of the Paris Agreement "merely ratified a trend long becoming evident." No, Trump isn't to blame for the demise of the issue; in the end, the self-defeating ideological agenda of social justice and climate activists have finally buried it.

"The descent of climate change into the abyss of social-justice identity politics represents the last gasp of a cause that has lost its vitality. Climate alarm is like a car alarm - a blaring noise people are tuning out," writes Hayward. And this collapse of the movement, he explains, was utterly "predictable."

Citing political scientist Anthony Downs' 1972 article for the Public Interest, "Up and Down With Ecology: The 'Issue-Attention Cycle,'" Hayward lays out the five stages of a political movement, with which climate change has tracked perfectly. It's now suffering the inglorious fifth stage:

Stage 1: Experts and activists call attention to a public problem.

Stage 2: The "alarmed media and political class discover the issue" and often stir up "euphoric enthusiasm ... as activists conceive the issue in terms of global peril and salvation."

Stage 3: The "hinge," characterized by "a gradually spreading realization that the cost of 'solving' the problem is very high indeed."

Stage 4: The "gradual decline in the intensity of public interest in the problem."

Stage 5: A "prolonged limbo - a twilight realm of lesser attention or spasmodic recurrences of interest," which often involves "painful trade-offs" that activists simply aren't willing to make.
Climate change is clearly in this fifth and final stage, he explains, where activists are blocking viable solutions as a result of their ideology, including social justice activism and their "utopian" environmental vision:
A case in point is climate campaigners' push for clean energy, whereas they write off nuclear power because it doesn't fit their green utopian vision. A new study of climate-related philanthropy by Matthew Nisbet found that of the $556.7 million green-leaning foundations spent from 2011-15, "not a single grant supported work on promoting or reducing the cost of nuclear energy." The major emphasis of green giving was "devoted to mobilizing public opinion and to opposing the fossil fuel industry."

If scientists want to be angry with anyone, he writes, they should direct that anger at the Left for politicizing the issue and the international policy community for narrowing what it deems to be acceptable responses.

"Treating climate change as a planet-scale problem that could be solved only by an international regulatory scheme transformed the issue into a political creed for committed believers," he concludes. "Causes that live by politics, die by politics."

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 06/05/2018 04:46 PM
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Funny, these same people were around when Obama was president and legitimate steps were being made by the US to curb our CO2 emissions.

That stopped when Trump became president.

Trump is to blame, everyone can see that.

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 06/06/2018 06:14 AM
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Science is not political, despite big oils attempts.

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 06/06/2018 06:23 AM
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tage 1: Experts and activists call attention to a public problem.

Stage 2: The "alarmed media and political class discover the issue" and often stir up "euphoric enthusiasm ... as activists conceive the issue in terms of global peril and salvation."

Stage 3: The "hinge," characterized by "a gradually spreading realization that the cost of 'solving' the problem is very high indeed."

Stage 4: The "gradual decline in the intensity of public interest in the problem."

Stage 5: A "prolonged limbo - a twilight realm of lesser attention or spasmodic recurrences of interest," which often involves "painful trade-offs" that activists simply aren't willing to make.
Climate change is clearly in this fifth and final stage, he explains, where activists are blocking viable solutions as a result of their ideology, including social justice activism and their "utopian" environmental vision:
A case in point is climate campaigners' push for clean energy, whereas they write off nuclear power because it doesn't fit their green utopian vision. A new study of climate-related philanthropy by Matthew Nisbet found that of the $556.7 million green-leaning foundations spent from 2011-15, "not a single grant supported work on promoting or reducing the cost of nuclear energy." The major emphasis of green giving was "devoted to mobilizing public opinion and to opposing the fossil fuel industry."


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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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 06/06/2018 06:43 AM
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 06/06/2018 07:03 AM
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Political climate change died with Pruitt's installation.

But the ocean is still rising and becoming more acidic.

And the frequency of heavy rain events in the continental US is still increasing.

Physics doesn't care about politics.



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 06/06/2018 08:48 AM
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But the Ocean is still rising and the frequency of heavy rain events....

 

Are you still stuck if phase 2 where you are trying to stir up euphoric enthusiasm for some percieved issue???

Sorry but the intensity of the interest in that issue has gradually declined and people feel like that scenario really doesn't need the attention that you seem to place on it.

You should probably write your congressman and ask that he support Nuclear energy next time that issue comes up.



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No.

Just stating facts.

The media and political class may have moved on.

But physics plows ahead whether sensation follows or not.

Insurance underwriters are paying attention even if the media is buried in covfefe.



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"Sorry but the intensity of the interest in that issue has gradually declined and people feel like that scenario really doesn't need the attention that you seem to place on it."

nobodyelse clueless as usual Probably thinks the LGBTQ movement thwarted because of the cancellation of Caitlyn Jenner's show

http://miamigov.com/sealevelrise/
 06/06/2018 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by: Fish KillerThe 'Issue-Attention Cycle,'" Hayward lays out the five stages of a political movement, with which climate change has tracked perfectly. It's now suffering the inglorious fifth stage: Stage 1: Experts and activists call attention to a public problem. Stage 2: The "alarmed media and political class discover the issue" and often stir up "euphoric enthusiasm ... as activists conceive the issue in terms of global peril and salvation." Stage 3: The "hinge," characterized by "a gradually spreading realization that the cost of 'solving' the problem is very high indeed." Stage 4: The "gradual decline in the intensity of public interest in the problem." Stage 5: A "prolonged limbo - a twilight realm of lesser attention or spasmodic recurrences of interest," which often involves "painful trade-offs" that activists simply aren't willing to make. Climate change is clearly in this fifth and final stage, he explains, where activists are blocking viable solutions as a result of their ideology, including social justice activism and their "utopian" environmental vision: A case in point is climate campaigners' push for clean energy, whereas they write off nuclear power

This is interesting because these things don't always end in the 5 stage.

The Clean Air and Clean Water Acts passed and brought about massive changes with industry kicking and screaming all the way.

If scientists want to be angry with anyone, he writes, they should direct that anger at the Left for politicizing the issue

Uh, the left is solely to blame for politicizing the issue?

Any science that informs policy is "politicized" the moment a bill is crafted.

Also, "the left" is the politicizer?

Shall we go into the archives so look at what Heartland and Heritage have written/said on everything from sulfur to CFCs to CO2 and heavy metals? Going back decades.



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 06/06/2018 09:13 AM
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Hey SnailTrailer: what a pathetic little ignorant puddle of putin lovin pooh.
And: he even uses the same lying "ElectricreelKiller" alias on other watersports websites! Wow, dude, just wow! You sure put that mean ol Mr. Cole in his place, huh goober?
Yep, you be livin the hi life now milo!
As for dumbunnydense: yep, more nuclear energy and coal mining is definitely the answer. (The fund to help miners with black lung disablement is 6 BILLION in the red. And coal producers want to stop funding it. For the many many thousands of americans crippled by this curse)
Two shining examples of the glorious, virtuous chumpfdirt lemmings slavishly following their mighty lord fuehrer: herr loofa! Sieg!
Right off a cliff into their coal slurry, radioactive swamp.....
oh yeah: duhh....

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 06/06/2018 09:21 AM
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Probably thinks the LGBTQFHNC movement is thwarted because cancellation of whatever show????

 

 

Are you still stuck in phase 2 where you are trying to stir up euphoric enthusiasm for some percieved issue???

Sorry but the intensity of the interest in that issue has gradually declined and people feel like that scenario doesn't need the attention that you seem to place on it.

 



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Huh? Oh yeah I forgot that nobodyelse shows up without any real evidence of anything and just some anecdotal stuff that came from their aged melon. Yeah it's confusing science and all but the fact remains that every coastal city in Florida is affected by rising ocean levels and many of those cities are actively planning for it.

nobodyelse on the front lines of saving us from red light cams!
 06/06/2018 09:15 PM
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Public opinion
Wont change
Physical reality

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malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill
 06/07/2018 05:18 AM
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Originally posted by: WG

Public opinion

Wont change

Physical reality


It will come election time.

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 06/07/2018 06:37 AM
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Trump's declaration that everything is okay and the beliefs of the residents there won't change the physical reality that Tangier Island is going under.



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Builders and construction companies are buying up the high land in Miami, insurance companies are adjusting their rates to address the issue and the military see global warming as a true problem.

Sorry, but reality proves this option piece is just more bullshit from the Right.

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 06/07/2018 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole

Builders and construction companies are buying up the high land in Miami, insurance companies are adjusting their rates to address the issue and the military see global warming as a true problem.



Sorry, but reality proves this option piece is just more bullshit from the Right.


Sorry, but reality proves your bullshit is just more bovine feces from the far Left

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Guppy gigger still dope after all these years... http://www.noaa.gov/news/coast...looding-days-last-year
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Originally posted by: Greensleeves

Guppy gigger still dope after all these years... http://www.noaa.gov/news/coast...looding-days-last-year


LOOK....more tainted NOAA bullshit!

FOOL!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
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