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Topic Summary: Trump blocking critics on Twitter violates Constitution: judge
Created On: 05/23/2018 01:38 PM
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 05/23/2018 01:38 PM
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(Reuters) - A federal judge in New York on Wednesday ruled that President Donald Trump may not legally block Twitter users because doing so violates their right to free speech under the First Amendment of the Constitution.


U.S. District Judge Naomi Reice Buchwald stopped short of ordering Trump to unblock users, saying it was not necessary to enter a "legal thicket" involving courts' power. She said she assumed Trump or his social media director Dan Scavino, who also was a defendant in the case, would unblock the users in light of her decision.

Buchwald's ruling was in response to a lawsuit filed against Trump in July by the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University and several Twitter users.

Twitter declined to comment on the ruling while the White House and the U.S. Department of Justice, which represents the president in the case, did not immediately comment.

Trump was a prolific tweeter from his @RealDonaldTrump account even before being elected in 2016 and has since made it an integral and controversial part of his presidency. Aides reportedly have tried to rein in his tweeting, which often starts early in the morning. But he has remained unfettered and used Twitter to promote his agenda, announce policy and attack critics, especially the media, and the investigation into possible Russian connections with his campaign.

The plaintiffs claimed in their lawsuit that by blocking users for their views, Trump was shutting them out of discussion in a public forum, violating the First Amendment.

When one Twitter user blocks another, the blocked user may not respond to the blocker's tweets on the social media platform.

Media reports say among those Trump has blocked are novelists Stephen King and Anne Rice, comedian Rosie O'Donnell, model Chrissy Teigen, actress Marina Sirtis and the military veterans political action committee VoteVets.org.

The individual plaintiffs in the lawsuit include Philip Cohen, a sociology professor at the University of Maryland; Holly Figueroa, described in the complaint as a political organizer and songwriter in Washington State; and Brandon Neely, a Texas police officer.

Buchwald agreed with the plaintiffs' contention that the discussions arising from Trump's tweets should be considered a public forum. She rejected an argument made by Justice Department lawyers that Trump's own First Amendment rights allowed him to block people with whom he did not wish to interact.

"While we must recognize, and are sensitive to, the president's personal First Amendment rights, he cannot exercise those rights in a way that infringes the corresponding First Amendment rights of those who have criticized him," Buchwald said.

Buchwald said Trump could "mute" users, meaning he would not see their tweets while they could still respond to his, without violating their free speech rights.

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 05/23/2018 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by: fishkller

(Reuters) - A federal judge in New York on Wednesday ruled that President Donald Trump may not legally block Twitter users because doing so violates their right to free speech under the First Amendment of the Constitution.





U.S. District Judge Naomi Reice Buchwald stopped short of ordering Trump to unblock users, saying it was not necessary to enter a "legal thicket" involving courts' power. She said she assumed Trump or his social media director Dan Scavino, who also was a defendant in the case, would unblock the users in light of her decision.



Buchwald's ruling was in response to a lawsuit filed against Trump in July by the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University and several Twitter users.



Twitter declined to comment on the ruling while the White House and the U.S. Department of Justice, which represents the president in the case, did not immediately comment.



Trump was a prolific tweeter from his @RealDonaldTrump account even before being elected in 2016 and has since made it an integral and controversial part of his presidency. Aides reportedly have tried to rein in his tweeting, which often starts early in the morning. But he has remained unfettered and used Twitter to promote his agenda, announce policy and attack critics, especially the media, and the investigation into possible Russian connections with his campaign.



The plaintiffs claimed in their lawsuit that by blocking users for their views, Trump was shutting them out of discussion in a public forum, violating the First Amendment.



When one Twitter user blocks another, the blocked user may not respond to the blocker's tweets on the social media platform.



Media reports say among those Trump has blocked are novelists Stephen King and Anne Rice, comedian Rosie O'Donnell, model Chrissy Teigen, actress Marina Sirtis and the military veterans political action committee VoteVets.org.



The individual plaintiffs in the lawsuit include Philip Cohen, a sociology professor at the University of Maryland; Holly Figueroa, described in the complaint as a political organizer and songwriter in Washington State; and Brandon Neely, a Texas police officer.



Buchwald agreed with the plaintiffs' contention that the discussions arising from Trump's tweets should be considered a public forum. She rejected an argument made by Justice Department lawyers that Trump's own First Amendment rights allowed him to block people with whom he did not wish to interact.



"While we must recognize, and are sensitive to, the president's personal First Amendment rights, he cannot exercise those rights in a way that infringes the corresponding First Amendment rights of those who have criticized him," Buchwald said.



Buchwald said Trump could "mute" users, meaning he would not see their tweets while they could still respond to his, without violating their free speech rights.


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Amazing that only 7 people represented. If you are on twitter you know for sure he banned loads of people including veterans (I think a Veteran's organization too), reporters, lawyers, multiple entertainers and ton of just good old American 1st A protected citizens.
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"mute"  LOL.  That has got to be a foreign word to those tweet handlers.  I think perhaps the only definition they may have is "person with disabilities to make fun of to emphasize a talking point that shows evolutionary natural selection at work."

 05/24/2018 04:26 AM
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Fish Killer

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Don't yall' love it when a liberal POS commie judge violates Trumps Constitutional rights!

LOVE IT!

This will be shot down is about a quarter of a second!

FACT!

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 05/24/2018 04:31 AM
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#FakeNews #Propaganda


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 05/24/2018 04:45 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: wtf

#FakeNews #Propaganda


Yeah....how so?!?!

Oh wait...you're pulling the bullshit commie prog democrap move of calling anything 'fake news' just to stirr up the pot!

Got it!

Didnt work.

Idiot!


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 05/24/2018 05:21 AM
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I love that Trump boasts about the amount of twitter followers he has when half of them hate his guts and attack his every comment.

Trump's tweets are the official word of the White House, blocking followers has to be a Constitutional crisis.

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Originally posted by: Cole

I love that Trump boasts about the amount of twitter followers he has when half of them hate his guts and attack his every comment.



Trump's tweets are the official word of the White House, blocking followers has to be a Constitutional crisis.


Trumps Twitter account is PRIVATE...as in a private person.

He had the account way before his election!

Way before he was even a potential candidate.

It's his PRIVATE account!

IDIOT!

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
 05/24/2018 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer
Originally posted by: Cole I love that Trump boasts about the amount of twitter followers he has when half of them hate his guts and attack his every comment. Trump's tweets are the official word of the White House, blocking followers has to be a Constitutional crisis.
Trumps Twitter account is PRIVATE...as in a private person. He had the account way before his election! Way before he was even a potential candidate. It's his PRIVATE account! IDIOT!
Problem is, he's not a private citizen anymore. He is the 45th President of the United States of America. He has to allow all citizens access to info he puts out. Doesn't matter how he communicates, he cannot block one single citizen without violating the constitution. So sad...
 05/24/2018 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer
Originally posted by: Cole I love that Trump boasts about the amount of twitter followers he has when half of them hate his guts and attack his every comment. Trump's tweets are the official word of the White House, blocking followers has to be a Constitutional crisis.
Trumps Twitter account is PRIVATE...as in a private person. He had the account way before his election! Way before he was even a potential candidate. It's his PRIVATE account! IDIOT! (FK)

On the POTUS twitter, @POTUS, it says:

45th President of the United States of America, @realDonaldTrump. Tweets archived: http://wh.gov/privacy

They archive everyone's tweets to him on @realDonaldTrump, they are treating his original twitter as the POTUS twitter. They did the same with Obama. Therefore all should have access.

So much for your story.

 05/24/2018 06:03 AM
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THE WHITE HOUSE IS COMMITTED TO PROTECTING INDIVIDUAL PRIVACY AND SECURING THE PERSONAL INFORMATION MADE AVAILABLE TO US WHEN YOU VISIT WHITEHOUSE.GOV OR VISIT WHITE HOUSE PAGES HOSTED BY OTHER SITES (SUCH AS OUR OFFICIAL PROFILES ON SOCIAL NETWORKING SITES). THIS PRIVACY POLICY DESCRIBES WHAT INFORMATION IS MADE AVAILABLE TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND HOW THAT INFORMATION IS USED AND RETAINED, AND PROVIDES INFORMATION ON:

INFORMATION WE RECEIVE (WHEN YOU PROVIDE IT, VISIT WHITEHOUSE.GOV, RECEIVE EMAIL UPDATES, OR INTERACT WITH OFFICIAL WHITE HOUSE PRESENCES ON THIRD-PARTY SITES) HOW THIS INFORMATION IS USED SHARING OF THIS INFORMATION DATA RETENTION THIRD-PARTY TOOLS AND SITES CHILDREN AND PRIVACY SECURITY

This archive has got to be the greatest ever. I've see the responses Trump gets. HAHAHAHA

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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: Cole



I love that Trump boasts about the amount of twitter followers he has when half of them hate his guts and attack his every comment.







Trump's tweets are the official word of the White House, blocking followers has to be a Constitutional crisis.




Trumps Twitter account is PRIVATE...as in a private person.



He had the account way before his election!



Way before he was even a potential candidate.



It's his PRIVATE account!



IDIOT! (FK)





On the POTUS twitter, @POTUS, it says:



45th President of the United States of America, @realDonaldTrump. Tweets archived: http://wh.gov/privacy



They archive everyone's tweets to him on @realDonaldTrump, they are treating his original twitter as the POTUS twitter. They did the same with Obama. Therefore all should have access.



So much for your story.


His twitter account has been open and USED since LONG before his presidency AND campaign!

THATS A FACT!

LOOK IT UP!

ASSHOLE!

One can change the HEADER to an account at WILL!

IDIOT!



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
 05/24/2018 06:14 AM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: Fish Killer
Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: Fish Killer
Originally posted by: Cole I love that Trump boasts about the amount of twitter followers he has when half of them hate his guts and attack his every comment. Trump's tweets are the official word of the White House, blocking followers has to be a Constitutional crisis.
Trumps Twitter account is PRIVATE...as in a private person. He had the account way before his election! Way before he was even a potential candidate. It's his PRIVATE account! IDIOT! (FK)
On the POTUS twitter, @POTUS, it says: 45th President of the United States of America, @realDonaldTrump. Tweets archived: http://wh.gov/privacy They archive everyone's tweets to him on @realDonaldTrump, they are treating his original twitter as the POTUS twitter. They did the same with Obama. Therefore all should have access. So much for your story.
His twitter account has been open and USED since LONG before his presidency AND campaign! THATS A FACT! LOOK IT UP! ASSHOLE! One can change the HEADER to an account at WILL! IDIOT!
Idiot, the WH states his twitter is an official POTUS twitter. Are you the thickest skulled idiot or what? Stop making shit up. This is the ultimate proof you're just a stooge.
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer Trumps Twitter account is PRIVATE...as in a private person. He had the account way before his election! Way before he was even a potential candidate. It's his PRIVATE account! IDIOT!

The account ceases to be private the moment it is used for state business. A lot of the announcements that he has made via twitter are state announcements made speaking as the POTUS.

It does not matter that the account existed before he was president.



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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: Fish Killer Trumps Twitter account is PRIVATE...as in a private person. He had the account way before his election! Way before he was even a potential candidate. It's his PRIVATE account! IDIOT!
The account ceases to be private the moment it is used for state business. A lot of the announcements that he has made via twitter are state announcements made speaking as the POTUS. It does not matter that the account existed before he was president.
"But but but....I want it to be not true." Meanwhile the WH says its an official outlet of the POTUS. hahaha "NOOOOO" You can't wish the truth.
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: HAPDigital



Originally posted by: Fish Killer



Originally posted by: Cole







I love that Trump boasts about the amount of twitter followers he has when half of them hate his guts and attack his every comment.















Trump's tweets are the official word of the White House, blocking followers has to be a Constitutional crisis.








Trumps Twitter account is PRIVATE...as in a private person.







He had the account way before his election!







Way before he was even a potential candidate.







It's his PRIVATE account!







IDIOT! (FK)










On the POTUS twitter, @POTUS, it says:







45th President of the United States of America, @realDonaldTrump. Tweets archived: http://wh.gov/privacy







They archive everyone's tweets to him on @realDonaldTrump, they are treating his original twitter as the POTUS twitter. They did the same with Obama. Therefore all should have access.







So much for your story.




His twitter account has been open and USED since LONG before his presidency AND campaign!



THATS A FACT!



LOOK IT UP!



ASSHOLE!



One can change the HEADER to an account at WILL!



IDIOT!


Idiot, the WH states his twitter is an official POTUS twitter. Are you the thickest skulled idiot or what? Stop making shit up. This is the ultimate proof you're just a stooge.


The White House can CLAIM whatever it likes!

IT DOESNT CHANGE THE FUCKING FACTS!

IDIOT!



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
 05/24/2018 06:34 AM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: Fish Killer
Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: Fish Killer
Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: Fish Killer
Originally posted by: Cole I love that Trump boasts about the amount of twitter followers he has when half of them hate his guts and attack his every comment. Trump's tweets are the official word of the White House, blocking followers has to be a Constitutional crisis.
Trumps Twitter account is PRIVATE...as in a private person. He had the account way before his election! Way before he was even a potential candidate. It's his PRIVATE account! IDIOT! (FK)
On the POTUS twitter, @POTUS, it says: 45th President of the United States of America, @realDonaldTrump. Tweets archived: http://wh.gov/privacy They archive everyone's tweets to him on @realDonaldTrump, they are treating his original twitter as the POTUS twitter. They did the same with Obama. Therefore all should have access. So much for your story.
His twitter account has been open and USED since LONG before his presidency AND campaign! THATS A FACT! LOOK IT UP! ASSHOLE! One can change the HEADER to an account at WILL! IDIOT!
Idiot, the WH states his twitter is an official POTUS twitter. Are you the thickest skulled idiot or what? Stop making shit up. This is the ultimate proof you're just a stooge.
The White House can CLAIM whatever it likes! IT DOESNT CHANGE THE FUCKING FACTS! IDIOT!
Eh, it does and it's legally bound.
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I think the Whitehouse word might have more gravity than FK opinion on this matter. Just a little.



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And the oath of office.....
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