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Topic Title: Congress Blindsides Democrats: Clinton, Comey, And 4 Others Face Criminal Charges
Topic Summary: Awwww....darn. someone is going to JAIL!
Created On: 05/23/2018 10:07 AM
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 05/24/2018 11:22 AM
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scombrid

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Originally posted by: obx2

 

I know right? The thought that we can't trust the government and/or the media is batshit crazy, right? Its like, I just don't understand why anyone would be opposed to giving up their right to bear arms and have faith in their government to protect them, or have faith that the government is out for the best interest of the populace, and not those in power. I mean, screw history, right? At some point we have to have hope, and faith in humanity, and start trusting the government. Hell, why even be skeptical/critica at all?

 

Should we just have anarchy then and the company with the most money and most armed guards calls the shots since government is the root of all evil?

Or maybe there's another position somewhere like a democratic republic or democratic socialism or some other system where there the government is a third party that is answerable to a broad spectrum of the population?



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 05/24/2018 11:22 AM
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Greensleeves

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Tin foil hat assembled and firmly fixed on BlowBsII's noggin.

So the "Deep state" is risking being exposed because they wanted to keep Trump out of office? 

Why exactly would they waste the effort to do that? 

To repress the billionaires or...

 05/24/2018 11:34 AM
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scombrid

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Originally posted by: Greensleeves Tin foil hat assembled and firmly fixed on BlowBsII's noggin.

 

So the "Deep state" is risking being exposed because they wanted to keep Trump out of office? 

 

Why exactly would they waste the effort to do that? 

 

To repress the billionaires or...

 

Yeah, no shit.

Huge multinational corporations own our government.

Trump gives them everything they want.

The few giant telecoms that have regional monopolies on broadband internet access got rid of Net Neutrality.

Exxon-Mobile et al. got Pruitt, Zinke, Perry on the cabinet.

Clean Water Act is being gutted.

Huge tax cuts at the top end plus the promise of debt funded infrastructure spending that will got to those same corporations.

But the "deep state" is against Trump?



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 05/25/2018 03:38 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: wtf<~~~#FakeNews #Propaganda


Why yes....yes you are!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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 05/25/2018 06:21 AM
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obx2

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Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: obx2 or the candidate that was/is obvioulsy a threat to the corruption.  

 

 

 

 

Yeah, Trump is really our white horse, come to save us plebes from the Oligarchy. And Putin is a great guy that has simply been slandered by the libtard western press working on behalf of the New World Order.

 

Trump is America's savior and Putin is Europes savior. Okalie doakalie.

 

 

 

Your words, not mine. All though I do salute you refraiming from the use of "you people" in your posts, lately.

 05/25/2018 06:47 AM
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obx2

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Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: obx2

 

 

 

I know right? The thought that we can't trust the government and/or the media is batshit crazy, right? Its like, I just don't understand why anyone would be opposed to giving up their right to bear arms and have faith in their government to protect them, or have faith that the government is out for the best interest of the populace, and not those in power. I mean, screw history, right? At some point we have to have hope, and faith in humanity, and start trusting the government. Hell, why even be skeptical/critica at all?

 

 

 

 

Should we just have anarchy then and the company with the most money and most armed guards calls the shots since government is the root of all evil?

 

Or maybe there's another position somewhere like a democratic republic or democratic socialism or some other system where there the government is a third party that is answerable to a broad spectrum of the population?

 

No, we should hold elected officials accountable, and stop with the partisan blinders. Its not that hard, but it does require critical thought, and skepticism of "news" void of any facts. Or "news" that is just opinion pieces with an obvious bias/narrative. In your case, 1st step is realizing there is a liberal bias in mainstream media to begin with.

The reason we are where we are is because of two "tricks" those who are power hungry employ on us. They are a combination of the following:

1. Controll opinion, and you control policy

2. It is easier to fool a man, then convince him he's been fooled.

Its this combination that allows propaganda to work. As mentioned, 1st step in combating it is realizing the media is out to control opinion.

We are a democratic Republic, by the way.....

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