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I'm still pretty sure that things are warming up a bit, but this article does make a few very good points about what the media talks about and/or does not talk about, , ,

Don't Tell Anyone, But We Just Had Two Years Of Record-Breaking Global Cooling

5/16/2018

Inconvenient Science: NASA data show that global temperatures dropped sharply over the past two years. Not that you'd know it, since that wasn't deemed news. Does that make NASA a global warming denier?

Writing in Real Clear Markets, Aaron Brown looked at the official NASA global temperature data and noticed something surprising. From February 2016 to February 2018, "global average temperatures dropped by 0.56 degrees Celsius." That, he notes, is the biggest two-year drop in the past century.

"The 2016-2018 Big Chill," he writes, "was composed of two Little Chills, the biggest five month drop ever (February to June 2016) and the fourth biggest (February to June 2017). A similar event from February to June 2018 would bring global average temperatures below the 1980s average."

Isn't this just the sort of man-bites-dog story that the mainstream media always says is newsworthy?

In this case, it didn't warrant any news coverage.

In fact, in the three weeks since Real Clear Markets ran Brown's story, no other news outlet picked up on it. They did, however, find time to report on such things as tourism's impact on climate change, how global warming will generate more hurricanes this year, and threaten fish habitats, and make islands uninhabitable. They wrote about a UN official saying that "our window of time for addressing climate change is closing very quickly."

Reporters even found time to cover a group that says they want to carve President Trump's face into a glacier to prove climate change "is happening."

In other words, the mainstream news covered stories that repeated what climate change advocates have been saying ad nauseam for decades.

That's not to say that a two-year stretch of cooling means that global warming is a hoax. Two years out of hundreds or thousands doesn't necessarily mean anything. And there could be a reasonable explanation. But the drop in temperatures at least merits a "Hey, what's going on here?" story.

What's more, journalists are perfectly willing to jump on any individual weather anomaly - or even a picture of a starving polar bear - as proof of global warming. (We haven't seen any stories pinning Hawaii's recent volcanic activity on global warming yet, but won't be surprised if someone tries to make the connection.)

We've noted this refusal to cover inconvenient scientific findings many times in this space over the years.

Hiding The Evidence
There was the study published in the American Meteorological Society's Journal of Climate showing that climate models exaggerate global warming from CO2 emissions by as much as 45%. It was ignored.


Then there was the study in the journal Nature Geoscience that found that climate models were faulty, and that, as one of the authors put it, "We haven't seen that rapid acceleration in warming after 2000 that we see in the models."

Nor did the press see fit to report on findings from the University of Alabama-Huntsville showing that the Earth's atmosphere appears to be less sensitive to changing CO2 levels than previously assumed.

How about the fact that the U.S. has cut CO2 emissions over the past 13 years faster than any other industrialized nation? Or that polar bear populations are increasing? Or that we haven't seen any increase in violent weather in decades?

Crickets.

Reporters no doubt worry that covering such findings will only embolden "deniers" and undermine support for immediate, drastic action.

But if fears of catastrophic climate change are warranted - which we seriously doubt - ignoring things like the rapid cooling in the past two years carries an even bigger risk.

Suppose, Brown writes, the two-year cooling trend continues. "At some point the news will leak out that all global warming since 1980 has been wiped out in two and a half years, and that record-setting events went unreported."

He goes on: "Some people could go from uncritical acceptance of steadily rising temperatures to uncritical refusal to accept any warming at all."

Brown is right. News outlets should decide what gets covered based on its news value, not on whether it pushes an agenda. Otherwise, they're doing the public a disservice and putting their own already shaky credibility at greater risk.

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Edited: 05/17/2018 at 04:06 AM by dingpatch
 05/17/2018 04:58 AM
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follydude

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Don't tell anyone, but sea surface temperatures are rising...

https://www.epa.gov/climate-in...ea-surface-temperature

Don't tell anyone, but carbon dioxide in oceans is on the rise and the pH is dropping...

https://www.epa.gov/climate-in...dicators-ocean-acidity

Don't tell anyone, but CO2 is off the charts...

https://www.co2.earth



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tom

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um,

link to the real clear markets article https://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2018/04/24/did_you_know_the_greatest_two-year_global_cooling_event_just_took_place_103243.html

within the article is a link to the NASA Goddard pages where the data reside

https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/

And from those pages (and data), here's the NASA/NOAA interpretation:

"Earth's global surface temperatures in 2017 ranked as the second warmest since 1880, according to an analysis by NASA.

Continuing the planet's long-term warming trend, globally averaged temperatures in 2017 were 1.62 degrees Fahrenheit (0.90 degrees Celsius) warmer than the 1951 to 1980 mean, according to scientists at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York. That is second only to global temperatures in 2016."

https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20180118/

I guess you can chose who to believe...

The problem with science is that

it doesn't care if you believe in it or not.  



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follydude

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What's curious to me is that we're collectively here on this esteemed forum gathered as watermen of some form of passion.

All of the indicators pointed in my post above represent a threat to the health and well-being of the seas and its inhabitants.

For me, I surf, I fish and I dive and snorkel.

Cheering the destruction of this vast resource is negligence.


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Fish Killer

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Problem is that with NOAA and NASA...altered temperature data is a way of life.

Your 'science' isn't actual science....

It's grade A bullshit!

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I'm not sure what Real Clear Markets is or if Aaron Brown is qualified to read climate data, but his report is at odds with NOAA's conclusions.

The 2017 average global temperature across land and ocean surface areas was 0.84°C (1.51°F) above the 20th century average of 13.9°C (57.0°F), behind the record year 2016 (+0.94°C / +1.69°F) and 2015 (+0.90°C / +1.62°F; second warmest year on record) both influenced by a strong El Niño episode. The year 2017 is also the warmest year without an El Niño present in the tropical Pacific Ocean.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201713

Perhaps this didn't make the news, because it isn't news worthy.

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 05/17/2018 05:54 AM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Problem is that with NOAA and NASA...altered temperature data is a way of life.



Your 'science' isn't actual science....



It's grade A bullshit!


You will believe what Real Clear Markets and Aaron Brown - who and whatever they are - have to say, by doubt what some of the World's most intelligent and devoted people have confirmed through the scientific method. Moron.

They predicted weather would get more intense. It is happening.

They said anomalies related to the weather would occur. It is happening.

They said that global currents would being to alter. It is happening.

They said tropical diseases will begin to move north. It is happening.

They said crops will have to be planted farther north. It is happening.




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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: Cole

I'm not sure what Real Clear Markets is or if Aaron Brown is qualified to read climate data, but his report is at odds with NOAA's conclusions.



The 2017 average global temperature across land and ocean surface areas was 0.84°C (1.51°F) above the 20th century average of 13.9°C (57.0°F), behind the record year 2016 (+0.94°C / +1.69°F) and 2015 (+0.90°C / +1.62°F; second warmest year on record) both influenced by a strong El Niño episode. The year 2017 is also the warmest year without an El Niño present in the tropical Pacific Ocean.



http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201713



Perhaps this didn't make the news, because it isn't news worthy.


You're a fucking moron.

http://realclimatescience.com/...ory-change-the-data-2/

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Cole

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They predicted weather would get more intense. It is happening.

They said anomalies related to the weather would occur. It is happening.

They said that global currents would begin to alter. It is happening.

They said tropical diseases will begin to move north. It is happening.

They said crops will have to be planted farther north. It is happening.


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 05/17/2018 06:10 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and assume NOAA/NOAA knows WTF they're doing.
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Tell everyone we are polluting our atmosphere and the consequence is that the median earth temperature is rising. Short sighted fossil fuel purveyors have seen this as s threat to theirs businesses so they have created a false narrative and an army of lobbyists who finance politicians getting into elected positions who will then owe them for the favor. This is very effective as long as the science behind the lies is treated as competing facts instead of lies.

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hmmmmm who to believe tom or effkay.......unless we are talking GPS coordinates to the nearest whopper meal, I pick tom every time.

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theglide

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Short sighted fossil fuel purveyors have seen this as s threat to theirs businesses so they have created a false narrative and an army of lobbyists who finance politicians getting into elected positions who will then owe them for the favor.


The same blueprint used by big tobacco.

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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover

Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and assume NOAA/NOAA knows WTF they're doing.


Yeah...and you have no choice to believe that they falsified the data!

It's a fact!

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Great. So the falsified data that "carbon" companies use are facts. And you have no choice but to believe that shit.

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johnny

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Great, so get the third world countries to stop polluting

Raising our own first world standards is a drop in the bucket
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Hey Johnny, ever heard of the Paris Agreement?



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Yea it had vastly lower standards for China, India and other places that matter most

Let's ruin our ability to compete in a global market while helping the environment marginally

And of course we'll foot the bill
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3rdworldlover

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China Poised for Leadership on Climate Change After U.S. Reversal
President Trump's executive order to dismantle Obama-era climate policy is unlikely to stall global momentum on the issue, as China's growing role comes into focus.

http://news.nationalgeographic...plan-paris-agreement/

SAD
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johnny

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Good they should it's moslty their fault, where is India?

Why do we always have to babysit?
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