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 04/24/2018 01:58 PM
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Cole

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If there is nothing to see, why is everyone freaking out over Cohen.

Hannity is treating the guy like he's Satan. Deny, deny, deny.

Now Trump is extra lawyering up. Shit gonna hit the fan or what?

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 04/25/2018 05:48 AM
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When jimmy hoffa was in jail, he told his mobster friends to get someone installed as the teamsters leader that he could control and would know who was really boss. The mobster explained to him that if they could control a guy like that, anyone else could too. Fear as a motivator is a very jealous mistress. Cohen is scared of betraying trump. Trump has used and abused Cohen for decades. Trump knows that Cohen cannot talk about trump without implicating himself. So now the feds confront him with what they have. They convince him without yelling or obscenities that they have everything they need to take down everyone in the conspiracy. They explain that the other conspirators are going to be indicted and that they too will be given the opportunity to cooperate and take responsibility for their actions if they accept a plea and cooperate.

Cohen will hire a federal lawyer with connections. This lawyer will explain to Cohen what he already knows but cannot bring himself to speak about: trump is going down and you can't shield him or prevent it. You and trump are going to brought to a very public and ugly trial unless you cooperate against him and provide evidence. If you do not, you will be going to gladiator school in a federal prison where the guards are far more invested in their self preservation than than some rich lawyer. They will tell him that his sex life is about to make a dramatic jump. They will let him know that as Johnny newcock, he will be buying his new masters sanka, ramen noodles and candy bars between rapes. They will tell him that he should pick one powerful rapist to protect him from many drive by rapists and learn how to service him quickly and efficiently to avoid injury and being passed around. These prison bargains, he will be told, are what survivors do. They are not exaggerating. He will know real, immediate blood curdling fear.

Trump and his people will be tweeting a series of supper and veiled threats. That will be the fear that competes with the fear of being of being the prison bitch appellate lawyer commissary genie. This is why all the people that know this dynamics have forecasted that Cohen will flip. Anything that guy can do to keep from going in will be done. Rather predictably, trump will call him a traitor, a groupie that he regrets indulging in this fantasy friendship and a pathological liar.

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 04/25/2018 06:10 AM
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johnnyboy, sounds like you have the book already wrote. You forgot the part about the crime, what was it again? And Cole, I watch Hannity, I don't see him dissing Cohen. You guys are putting all your bets on the MSNBC narrative. You should broaden your perspective, maybe listen to both sides. If the hypocrisy coming from the left, doesn't make you a little suspicious, your a sheep.
 04/25/2018 08:03 AM
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Originally posted by: chopola

hypocrisy coming from the left


mmmmbaahhhhh say it again LOL you da sheep bro



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 04/25/2018 08:05 AM
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All will be revealed in due time.

"You're" is the correct contraction for "you are".


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 04/25/2018 12:50 PM
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Nice Johnnyboy. Whatever's going on, it will be a great movie and Trump will finally be the star he always wanted...up on the stand!!!

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 04/25/2018 01:12 PM
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will certainly make for a great Netflix series in about 3-5 years.. can't wait to binge it!



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 04/25/2018 01:42 PM
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scombrid

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There was a good but depressing article in Vox recently about how Trump is just a symptom of a broken system. When he goes away, no matter by election or court, none of the conditions that put him in place will have changed. Excising that tumor will not cure the badly metastacized cancer (my analogy not vox's).



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sadly, you are probably right.

but then again, this cancer may simply die of old age.

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 04/25/2018 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by: scombrid There was a good but depressing article in Vox recently about how Trump is just a symptom of a broken system. When he goes away, no matter by election or court, none of the conditions that put him in place will have changed. Excising that tumor will not cure the badly metastacized cancer (my analogy not vox's).

Maybe it's not that bad. This boil that began infecting us with the "southern strategy" erupted. Americans now know we have cancer.

Black women in Alabama will now vote.

Youth in South Florida and elsewhere will now speak. They will now vote.

Latinos in the southwest will speak again like they did with Chavez. They will vote.

Educated true conservatives will want to have longevity with their enterprises. They will vote accordingly.

Uneducated workers in the rust belt will realize they've been scammed by a grifter. They will vote.

Basically, in 2018 and beyond, millions of people who didn't think there were as many stupid Fish Killer types crawling about our nation, millions who thought their grandparents had their best interests and future in mind, millions of patriots who didn't think we'd fall asleep at the wheel and let our nation almost hit rocks, are going to be woke.

I hope.
 04/25/2018 05:34 PM
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Fish Killer

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You hope.

Good luck with that shit.

The NRA has gained twice as many members just recently as all of the gullible people you speak of.

They have set new records for fund raising too!

To top that off...when those people ACTUALLY wake up to reality they will be conservatives for life.

Fool!

http://ijr.com/2018/04/1087902-nra-parkland-shooting/

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The net effect may be far better for America than if neolib Hillary had won.

Millions are awake and getting activated. Days are numbered for old white men.

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 04/25/2018 08:11 PM
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Sanka? LoL
 04/25/2018 08:22 PM
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I hear ya Damon. Same thoughts here.

In general, humans move forward. It may be slow going, but we are no longer burning people alive or crucifying them in public. No people in theback of the bus.

So yeah, shining a spotlight in the dark dirty corners of America may be Trumps only real contribution to society, albeit unintentional.

One step back, but two steps forward.

and by the way, fuck Fishkiller. LOL








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 04/25/2018 09:21 PM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

You hope.



Good luck with that shit.



The NRA has gained twice as many members just recently as all of the gullible people you speak of.



They have set new records for fund raising too!



To top that off...when those people ACTUALLY wake up to reality they will be conservatives for life.



Fool!



http://ijr.com/2018/04/1087902-nra-parkland-shooting/


So you have no problem with their use of foreign money to influence election in America?

If a left leaning organization did the same, you would be yelling !PRISON! from the roof tops.



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 04/26/2018 05:45 AM
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He can't answer coherently for the same reason trump cannot: he bases his decisions on his personal interests which are different for each situation and change as the influences change. For people with values, morals, ethics and integrity, a decision is a logical conclusion consistent with those factors. Trump uses ethics against others but never recognizes the irony of his own well documented and recent unethical behavior. Fishy is now using this technique as his own. He is no longer able to forecast the trump personal interests so he reacts with whataboutisms and HILLARY. He's not answering nor can be. He is merely reacting.

For example, today Cohen announced that he will be taking the fifth, invoking his right to remain silent and retain a lawyer. Fishy may recall that when the people in camp Hillary invoked their fifth amendment right, trump said that they must be guilty of something because innocent people don't take the fifth. Now his lawyer is taking the fifth but trump and all of the same people that jumped to that guilty conclusion in Hillary's staff's case will be cutting and pasting lectures on the history and importance of the right to remain silent. If they really believed that the only inference from silence is guilt, how do they view Cohen today? If these same logicians recognize the hypocrisy in their double standard, can they reassess Hillary's staff and admire that they were wrong then?

No. Trump and fishy and the crew of knuckle dragging morons do not apply a consistent code of conduct to actions without regard to the person. They are loyalists and they support trump despite these hypocrisies, contradictions and clear evidence fraud.


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 05/01/2018 09:57 AM
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follydude

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... Jail may not be looking to bad for Cohen:

Michael Cohen Hit With New Taxi Taxes, Owes New York $282,000
 05/01/2018 01:33 PM
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johnnyboy

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Its just terrible timing that he had to refinance his house to pay off stormy, that money could really have paid some taxes.

Nothing from fishy? Your typical brand of stupidity is to block quote me and then proceeds to prove me correct. What gives?

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 05/03/2018 12:49 PM
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UH-OH!!!

Federal Investigators Put Wiretap On Trump Lawyer Michael Cohen

It's unclear how long ago the wiretapping was authorized, according to NBC News, but sources told the outlet that Cohen was "wiretapped in the weeks leading up to the search warrant that occurred several weeks ago," referring to federal authorities raiding his home, hotel room and office in April. ABC News later confirmed that federal investigators had tapped Cohen's phones ahead of the raid.

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 05/03/2018 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover

Sanka? LoL


Sanka, is you dead mon!?

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