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 04/19/2018 10:05 AM
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scombrid

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Originally posted by: onegoodturn hmmm, they were going to a real estate convention.

Source?

 

waiting for a friend they said. did the alleged friend ever show? just looked like two guys soaking up some free wifi and got called on it.

 

Friend showed up during the arrest and is on the video. He corroborated there story.

I notice Miker didn't question this assumption.



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 04/19/2018 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer [. She was the black woman who took the video of the arrest.

Mellissa DePino took the video.

She isn't black.

Miker let this assumption slide too.

The bathroom codes were refused to the two that did not order anything

You said that they went to the bathroom without ordering.

Now you say they were refused the codes?

They went and sat off to the side after the refusal.

Why were the cops called so quickly?

 



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 04/19/2018 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer [. She was the black woman who took the video of the arrest.

Mellissa DePino took the video.

She isn't black.

Miker let this assumption slide too.

The bathroom codes were refused to the two that did not order anything

You said that they went to the bathroom without ordering.

Now you say they were refused the codes?

They went and sat off to the side after the refusal.

Why were the cops called so quickly?

 



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 04/19/2018 12:13 PM
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Quick, call Al Sharpton. I'm sure he'll have plenty of positive vibes and insightful ways we can all move past these troubling ''racist'' times. Patchouli for all mankind!! LOL get real, come up for air. Wake up peeps. The time for seeking out ways to be offended is over. Move on and stfu. stop making excuses for and defending bad behavior. buy something or get the f#ck out. plain and simple, a universal law. cry babies.

 04/19/2018 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by: scombrid
Falling into whataboutism?




Huh? Clearly a wrong use of whataboutism on your part. I am not saying 'what about that' as a distraction technique.


I am saying 'what if' for the sake of not jumping to conclusions or making assumptions.


Your argument quality has gone down hill of late
 04/19/2018 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck
Mike, you're sure willing to argue at length in favor of ignoring what looks like implicit racism to the woke observer.


Actually no I am not Rusty. I am arguing against the automatic assumption of racism. I agree with you in regards to 'what it looks like'.

Speaking of implicit racism. Many people have automatically assumed that because the woman was white that she is a racist. Seems to be a very clear example of unconscious bias, expectation of racist intent, and belief in the tendency that because she is white she is automatically racist exhibited towards her by many people.... including some of those here.

Now it could very well that there was actual racism involved in this situation. However, without actual evidence, I am not going to 'assume' that this woman is racist or biased without knowing anything else about her or her intent.




 04/19/2018 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by: scombrid
I notice Miker didn't question this assumption.



What assumption didn't I question? What are you talking about?

Originally posted by: scombrid
Miker let this assumption slide too.





Oh I get it, because I didn't respond right away you 'think' you caught me on something. I am not going to apologize for the 'bad key' error popping up, the general shitty performance of this site, and that I had a few other things to do than respond to you right away ...assuming I even read FKs posts to begin with. However you absolutely should apologize for having the expectation that I hang on your every word and have the time or inclination to spam refresh over and over awaiting your posts. Get over yourself bro.
 04/19/2018 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by: miker I am saying 'what if' for the sake of not jumping to conclusions or making assumptions.

What-if-ism then.

You can what if in any direction that you like and that is just speculation and assumption about the state of mind of the 9/11 caller. You chastise people for that but then you do it just for the sake of argument.

How about the timeline from when they entered the establishment to when the police were called?

How about what the store patrons?

You know, shit that actually happened and reports from people that were there and then work on figuring things out from that?



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 04/19/2018 12:52 PM
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waiting for a friend they said. did the alleged friend ever show? just looked like two guys soaking up some free wifi and got called on it.

 

 

 

This one Miker. You ignored this incorrect assumption by onegoodturn.

 

 



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 04/19/2018 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by: miker Oh I get it, because I didn't respond right away you 'think' you caught me on something.

No.

Nowhere did I chastize you for not responding to me right away.

I am not going to apologize for the 'bad key' error popping up, the general shitty performance of this site, and that I had a few other things to do than respond to you right away ...assuming I even read FKs posts to begin with. However you absolutely should apologize for having the expectation that I hang on your every word and have the time or inclination to spam refresh over and over awaiting your posts. Get over yourself bro.

The post of FKs to which I referred in which he incorrectly claimed that a black women took the video in Starbucks was posted late last night along with some golden goodies from Johnny and onegoodturn.

You posted a fair amount this morning and none of the posts attacked any of the FK, Johnny, onegoodturn assumptions.

Oh, and feel free to show me where I chastized you for failure to respond quickly. It didn't happen. Strange delusion.

 



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 04/19/2018 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by: onegoodturn hmmm, they were going to a real estate convention.

Source?

 did the alleged friend ever show?

Yes. He appears in the video.

just looked like two guys soaking up some free wifi and got called on it.

The real estate developer they were there to meet showed up and corroborated their story that they were there to meet him.

So this assumption of yours is wrong.

They were there for 2 minutes before the cops were called. That is pretty damned fast. I know I have actually used the bathroom in a Starbucks and taken longer than that to make up my mind what to order.

That's one hardcore Starbucks there in Philadelphia.



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 04/20/2018 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by: scombrid

waiting for a friend they said. did the alleged friend ever show? just looked like two guys soaking up some free wifi and got called on it.




 


 


 







This one Miker. You ignored this incorrect assumption by onegoodturn.




 




 



Umm ok. What am I supposed to call him on exactly? That he said something without knowing the situation? Ok. Why are are you trying to make it my job to call every poster out on assumptions being made?
 04/20/2018 07:59 AM
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Originally posted by: scombrid

Originally posted by: miker Oh I get it, because I didn't respond right away you 'think' you caught me on something.




No.




Nowhere did I chastize you for not responding to me right away.




I am not going to apologize for the 'bad key' error popping up, the general shitty performance of this site, and that I had a few other things to do than respond to you right away ...assuming I even read FKs posts to begin with. However you absolutely should apologize for having the expectation that I hang on your every word and have the time or inclination to spam refresh over and over awaiting your posts. Get over yourself bro.




The post of FKs to which I referred in which he incorrectly claimed that a black women took the video in Starbucks was posted late last night along with some golden goodies from Johnny and onegoodturn.




You posted a fair amount this morning and none of the posts attacked any of the FK, Johnny, onegoodturn assumptions.




Oh, and feel free to show me where I chastized you for failure to respond quickly. It didn't happen. Strange delusion.




 



You rapid fired posts trying to call me out for not calling other people out. Why? I guess you are trying to make some obscure point about hypocrisy, but it really isn't working for you nor is it really valid. It isn't my job to call everyone out for every little assumption they make nor do I have the desire to do so. By all means, go for it though if it is your thing. There is a huge difference in the scope of a couple of people assuming things and this situation. Not even close. By all means though, continue down this road if you want.... or if I am wrong, actually say what the hell it is you are beating around the bush at.


 04/20/2018 09:23 AM
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Just observing a selective pattern.



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 04/20/2018 09:23 AM
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AND another Triggered thread runs it's course.

& MikeTrigger still don't get it

 04/20/2018 10:36 AM
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From my perspective, Miker wins the debate. He has valid points that the rest of you refuse to consider. But I guess it is to be expected, liberals will never look at both sides of the coin.
 04/20/2018 10:47 AM
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Go team go.



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 04/20/2018 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by: miker why did the black officer on the scene allow them to be handcuffed and escorted off the premise?

It is his job to remove people that the store requests be removed, not question the store's motivation for the request.

why is the black police chief supporting the actions of his officers?

Because they acted within the law.

Are they supposed to all band together or something?

 



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 04/20/2018 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by: miker What if it it wasn't due to racism? What if it was your girlfriend or wife who was having a bad day and was nothing more than sick and tired of cleaning up after people day in and out who weren't even buying anything in her store who then got a rash of shit for asking two MEN to buy something or leave.

Rash of shit?

None of the accounts have the two men giving anyone a the store a rash of shit.

Where to you get that information?

Then she felt threatened,

Why? No one else in the store did. The witnesses said the guys were sitting over to the side and not bothering anybody.

Accounts are showing a timeline that the cops were called about 2 minutes after these guys entered the store.

That's mighty fast for a place that has its image built on people just hanging out.

 



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 04/20/2018 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by: miker What I am challenging is the automatic assumption of racism

It isn't automatic.



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