Ok, let me get this striaght, based off of facts, Chicago has a higher murder rate then Orlando. One could extrapolate that the strict gun control in Chicago does nothing to curtail their murder rate. But no, the liberal counter is that the reason the strict laws don't work, is because the can go to Indiana and get them (they are completley deaf to the fact they just admitted that laws don't work on criminamls, but I digress).

Well, people in Orlando don't have to go anywhere, they are legally allowed to carry firearms. (Well, shall I say its easier for them to get firearms.) So, the liberals are saying the gun control laws aren't working in Chicago because of Indiana, then why wouldn't we see more murders in a city where the residents can get guns...easily? Could it be.......its not the gun?????

Obie makes a case for strict national gun laws....

Amazing how people can argue that we can't do anything about something that only happens in the USA.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

One glaring mistake in this thread is assuming all murders are done by firearm. You need rate of firearm homicides/100k (should be available at CDC).

Btw, St. Louis and Baltimore have murder rates 2x Chicago. Just saying...

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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

u spelt pie-hole rong

 

 

Science? That thing silly Liberals use to claim the climate is changing? Science even claims that it took the world millions of years to be created instead of 6 days. That science?

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"I remember South Africa in the late 70's, sleeping on the beach at J-bay, smoking ganja with the blacks. On weekends we'd go to the pub in East London to drink beer and fight with the Afrikaners. They liked to fight, I liked to fight. It was a good time"

Yes that science. I also fixed part of that for you.

nice, I like science

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"I remember South Africa in the late 70's, sleeping on the beach at J-bay, smoking ganja with the blacks. On weekends we'd go to the pub in East London to drink beer and fight with the Afrikaners. They liked to fight, I liked to fight. It was a good time"

Your partisan, liberal, commie colored glasses only allow you to see what you want. If you had an ounce of reading comprehension, you would understand that I have just proved that strict gun laws will only lead to increase in Murder. I have also discredited the counter argument of "The only reason gun control doesn't work in Chicago is because of Indiana" That is a double-down dose of libtardism in that you just admitted that criminals will still be criminals instead of laws. And, if there were any fact to that counter-argument, then logic would say that areas where guns are more accessible, should have a higher gun-homicide rate. But they don't. Care to try and explain that?

Still waiting for you to give up your firearms, Rusty. In fact, your lack of logic is making me think I should report you to the authorities as "mentaly ill" with signs of delushion and I don't feel safe with you being armed. If you get a knock on your door, please surrender your firearms without incident for sake of public safety.

 

Well we don't have a wall around the country either. So if we are going to blame Chicago on Indiana......

Not just Indiana.
The rest of the country.
Indiana is just the closest.

That obx doesn't get the basic truth of that argument, the one that renders his Chicago anecdotes mute is evidence of weak logic.
Going off on the criminals will be criminals tangent (yes 1+1=2 we all know that) is also a dead end.
Strict gun control works to reduce gun crime. we know that.
Not gonna happen here, so pointless maybe, but still the truth

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill