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Topic Title: White House scandal explodes: Dozens of Trump officials lack full security clearance!!!
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 02/12/2018 02:57 PM
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follydude

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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Coleslaw is a complete blithering IDIOT!

He just cant stop lying his ass off!

">http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11...family.html


http://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2...earances-presidential/


Bullshit!

There are 40 people operating close to the president in the west wing on a regular basis without security clearances.

The NYT article you posted was speculative and from prior to stepping into the Oval Office. A lot has changed:

WASHINGTON - After days of reports that President-elect Donald J. Trump had requested a top-secret security clearance for his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, people close to Mr. Kushner said that was not the case. No such request has been made, they said on Wednesday, and he will not sit in on the president's highly classified daily intelligence briefing.


The Washington Post reports yesterday that Trump doesn't read his secret briefings - Kushner does, totally contrary to last November.

The blog you posted says the president has discretion to waive clearances - but for 40 key West Wing players? I call foul.

We must insist on better.




Edited: 02/12/2018 at 03:03 PM by follydude
 02/12/2018 02:58 PM
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dingpatch

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Seems pretty shaky to say the least. But then again, the POTUS is the final word on "clearance".

Even though, he is a civilian himself and Has Not Been Cleared.

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 02/12/2018 03:07 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: follydude

Originally posted by: Fish Killer



Coleslaw is a complete blithering IDIOT!



He just cant stop lying his ass off!



">
http://www.nytim...20...family...





http://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2...earances-presidential/




Bullshit!



There are 40 people operating close to the president in the west wing on a regular basis without security clearances.



The NYT article you posted was speculative and from prior to stepping into the Oval Office. A lot has changed:



WASHINGTON - After days of reports that President-elect Donald J. Trump had requested a top-secret security clearance for his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, people close to Mr. Kushner said that was not the case. No such request has been made, they said on Wednesday, and he will not sit in on the president's highly classified daily intelligence briefing.




The Washington Post reports yesterday that Trump doesn't read his secret briefings - Kushner does, totally contrary to last November.



The blog you posted says the president has discretion to waive clearances - but for 40 key West Wing players? I call foul.



We must insist on better.


YO....NUMBNUTS!

""The president can authorize clearance for anyone he wants," said Steven Aftergood, director of the project on government secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists. "It's part of his commander-in-chief role. He has broad, essentially unlimited, access in this area."
Like anyone else, Mr. Kushner would be subject to a background check by the F.B.I. But the president's authority is so broad, Mr. Aftergood said, that he could override red flags - like fraud, huge personal debt or ties to foreign governments - that would disqualify other applicants."



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 02/12/2018 03:11 PM
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follydude

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That's the problem with this administration summed up: just because you can doesn't mean you should.


 02/12/2018 04:50 PM
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fishkller

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LOL

..and folks like KGBkrammit and FK were blowing an artery over Hillary's mail server.

Trump and co have revolving door intel briefings- who needs clearance?

What a bunch of bumbling amateurs LOL

Its like the Keystone Kops up there

Guess the circus is in town!



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 02/12/2018 05:13 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: fishkller

LOL
..and folks like KGBkrammit and FK were blowing an artery over Hillary's mail server.


YO BUTTWIPE!

IT"S ILLEGAL AS HELL!

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 02/12/2018 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by: miker You would think. 18 months in and my new hire still doesn't have his clearance.

Does your new hire advise the President of the United States and/or control the information that the President of the United States receives on a daily basis?

Didn't think so. We have a problem with this situation that is not at all similar to your job, but thanks for trying to defend your hero. MAGA!
 02/12/2018 05:15 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: damonsharp

Originally posted by: miker

You would think. 18 months in and my new hire still doesn't have his clearance.






Does your new hire advise the President of the United States and/or control the information that the President of the United States receives on a daily basis?





Didn't think so. We have a problem with this situation that is not at all similar to your job, but thanks for trying to defend your hero. MAGA!


Yo fruitloops!

Trump is legally allowed to do as he pleases with his staff.

If you don't like it...TOUGH SHIT!



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 02/12/2018 05:25 PM
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fishkller

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Remember when Jared Kushner got elected as President?

Yeah, neither do I.

LOL



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 02/12/2018 06:01 PM
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miker

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Originally posted by: damonsharp

Originally posted by: miker

You would think. 18 months in and my new hire still doesn't have his clearance.






Does your new hire advise the President of the United States and/or control the information that the President of the United States receives on a daily basis?





Didn't think so. We have a problem with this situation that is not at all similar to your job, but thanks for trying to defend your hero. MAGA!


Hey dickface, I didn't vote for Trump and I think he is a clown, complete with little "car".

What is up with some of you wingnuts that automatically think anything said that doesn't 100% fall in line with your thoughts means you are completely on the opposite pole? It was fuckkng stupid when FK did it regarding Obama and it is stupid when you and others do it about Trump. Think about that for a second.
 02/12/2018 06:09 PM
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miker

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FWIW - My understanding is that the POTUS is the final authority and can grant access to information to anyone he wants and is not in violation of any laws. Not the smart thing to do though....
 02/12/2018 07:50 PM
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Cole

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God only knows where the information is ending up.

A true clown car: The story of the White House.

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 02/12/2018 08:14 PM
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fishkller

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He is worse at this than even I thought he would be..

Total amateur hour.

Staff quitting, fired or getting arrested constantly - there's more drama surrounding that crew than an Appalachian Emergency Room episode of Cops.

The joke Obama made about a hot tub on the front lawn of the Whitehouse turned out to be true LOL

Thank god I dont have to defend that turd all day to save face... must be a unique form of self delusion trying to make yourself believe anyone takes him seriously at this point

It has been alot of fun watching him F everything up.. turns out his "presidency" has been a hoot, really.

But we all know the really fun part has yet to come..

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 02/13/2018 04:29 AM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

director of the project on government secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists.

hahahaha
 02/13/2018 04:58 AM
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dingpatch

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Well, thank God that Mr. T and his posse will never be allowed to know any of the "Real" truths about this world.

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 02/13/2018 05:18 AM
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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: miker

FWIW - My understanding is that the POTUS is the final authority and can grant access to information to anyone he wants and is not in violation of any laws. Not the smart thing to do though....


He can declassify information, he can't grant clearance to people.

I don't think anyone ever thought there would need to be laws on common sense things like this.

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 02/13/2018 05:23 AM
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miker

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No.

He doesn't have to declassify information to grant someone access to it.

That is silly.

 02/13/2018 06:03 AM
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Cole

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The man had a high level meeting with Abe in a crowded restaurant and ratted out top secret information to Russians in the White House.

Like I said, God only knows where this info is ending up.

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 02/13/2018 02:39 PM
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fishkller

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Well lets just hope the aliens and Majestic 12 hid the good stuff long before the White House hot tub was installed...

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 02/13/2018 09:54 PM
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all3

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Originally posted by: dingpatch Well, thank God that Mr. T and his posse will never be allowed to know any of the "Real" truths about this world.
Really? You don't think that would change his tune?



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