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Topic Summary: is gonna be fun.
Created On: 12/12/2017 08:31 PM
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 12/12/2017 08:31 PM
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fishkller

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Be there!



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 12/12/2017 08:39 PM
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Fish Killer

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Lying cheating and deceit abound!

And you know it.

Sad.

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 12/12/2017 08:44 PM
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fishkller

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See you there :-)

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 12/12/2017 08:51 PM
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3rdworldlover

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+1 dems
Woo, yay
 12/12/2017 09:38 PM
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all3

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Will 2018 be the year trump releases his tax returns?



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 12/12/2017 10:25 PM
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HAPDigital

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Another WIN for progs...
 12/13/2017 04:17 AM
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Fish Killer

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Fraud...lying....cheating...stolen election.

That's the only way you prog democrap commies can win.

Fact!

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
 12/13/2017 05:30 AM
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worksuxgetsponsered

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If Trump can turn bama blue, it's probably going to be a bloodbath for the repubs in 2018. I will remain steadfast in my libertarian/NPA voting.

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 12/13/2017 05:47 AM
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wtf

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Suck it FK! LMAO

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 12/13/2017 05:50 AM
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RustyTruck

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A big night for us progtardolibs!

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We need the "humiliator of progs" to come in here and tell us a thing or two about how the world works hahahaha

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 12/13/2017 07:04 AM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: Fish Killer Fraud...lying....cheating...stolen election. That's the only way you prog democrap commies can win. Fact!
Nah that's the stain's way.
 12/13/2017 07:08 AM
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RustyTruck

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CBN is on my TV right now, and that football headed talking corpse Pat Robertson is worried Dems will take Congress in 2018 and trump will face real danger of impeachment.

Surprisingly lucid this morning.

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Pagerow

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Originally posted by: all3

Will 2018 be the year trump releases his tax returns?


No, it will be the year Mueller releases Drumpf's tax returns.

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 12/13/2017 08:50 AM
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tpapablo

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All years are fun. I reckon that probably doesn't apply to progs, a singularly joyless group.



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 12/13/2017 09:10 AM
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There's joy in progville today.
A Grinch has gone down.


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 12/13/2017 11:45 AM
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Its going to get ugly

From Bloomberg:


"Here are two certainties about the Trump-Russia investigation. It won't end soon. It will get uglier.


A new shoe drops almost daily in special counsel Robert Mueller's probe. First, Former national security adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying and agreed to cooperate. Then the White House changed its story (again) on what President Donald Trump knew after he was first advised in January that Flynn posed security problems.




QuickTake

Guide to the Trump-Russia Probe





Last week came news that Mueller had subpoenaed financial records from Deutsche Bank pertaining to people affiliated with Trump. Then Donald Trump Jr. said he wouldn't tell Congress about conversations he had with his father about his 2016 meeting with a Kremlin-linked Russian lawyer, invoking a dubious claim of attorney-client privilege.


This is not a saga in its closing chapter.

Equally clear is that no matter what is revealed, Trump and his allies won't go quietly. Already, some congressional Republicans are trying to smear Mueller, the most experienced and respected special counsel in more than 40 years. If cornered, does anyone doubt that Trump will summon his core supporters to the streets?

The constant revelations create such a blur that context sometimes is overlooked. Trump and his operatives have lied repeatedly, denying that they had any contacts with Russians. We now know of at least 19 meetings among 31 interactions.




There are three avenues Mueller is exploring. Did the Trump team aid and abet the Russian efforts to hack and steal e-mails with an eye toward influencing with the U.S. presidential election? Did the president try to obstruct the investigation into those efforts? What was the nature of any financial arrangements Trump may have had with Russians linked to the Kremlin? Many of the Trump defenses seem to be unraveling.




U.S. intelligence agencies have reported "with high confidence" that the Russian government was behind break-ins to the email accounts of Democratic operatives during the 2016 presidential campaign as part of a campaign to "undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process" and harm Hillary Clinton's "electability and potential presidency." In a January report, the agencies said that Russian President Vladimir Putin and his government "developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump."

The question now is whether Trump or his team knew about this and facilitated the dissemination of the stolen material through WikiLeaks and other sources. The secrecy and contradictory accounts of their communications with Russian sources undercuts their repeated claims that their contacts were innocent.

By last week, Trump opponents were taking to public forums to talk about the evidence supporting an obstruction-of-justice case against Trump himself. That's based on a chain of events involving Trump's effort to pressure James Comey to drop the Russia probe and then firing him as director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation when he didn't.




News organizations have also reported that Trump tried to influence other key officials to curtail investigations, including National Intelligence Director Dan Coats, National Security Agency director Admiral Mike Rogers and Senate Intelligence Committee chair Richard Burr. Coats and the others have avoided commenting directly on these accounts, which nevertheless appear to worry the White House enough to produce a claim last week by Trump's personal lawyer, John Dowd, that a president can never be guilty of obstruction because he is the chief law-enforcement officer under the Constitution.

That drew scornful responses from legal scholars and even some pushback from the White House lawyer handling the Russia case. As well it should; obstruction was the central impeachment charge against Presidents Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton.

Duke University law professor Samuel Buell, a former prosecutor, wrote in July that "it is highly likely that special counsel Robert Mueller will find that there is a provable case that the president committed a felony offense," namely obstruction.

And that's keeping in mind an important reminder from Bill Ruckelshaus, a former acting FBI director who was a hero of Watergate when he quit Nixon's Justice Department in 1973 rather than following an order to impede the investigation of that landmark case. What's publicly known about inquiries like this one, he told me in June, is just a little of what's actually happening.

There is, for example, evidence that Mueller has expanded his investigation to look at financial deals involving Trump family interests.

Robert Anderson, a top counterintelligence and cybersecurity aide to Mueller when the latter was FBI director from 2001 to 2013, wrote in Time last month that Mueller "appears to have uncovered details of a far-reaching Russian political-influence campaign." Anderson predicted that the conspiracy would prove to involve wire fraud, mail fraud and moving money around illicitly between countries. He said more informants are likely to emerge, and declared, "When the people who may be cooperating with the investigation start consensually recording conversations, it's all over."

The issue of whether a sitting president can be indicted is unsettled. Those who know Mueller believe that he's less likely to pursue a prosecution than to send Trump's case to Congress to consider impeachment.




Trump loyalists have already started fighting that battle, with bitter preemptive counterattacks issuing from top congressional Republicans like House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy and even Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Charles Grassley. They've made it clear that they're more interested in discrediting Mueller than in learning about what happened between the Trump camp and Russia.

Trump, if caged, will lash out furiously. Maybe he'd try to fire Mueller and issue pardons for his family and friends. He'd rally his hardcore supporters, urging them to protest against the threat to him. Thus it's impossible to envision a peaceful resolution like the one that occurred in 1974, when Nixon was forced out to avoid impeachment.

"At the end of the day, Richard Nixon was found to have a sense of shame," notes Watergate prosecutor Richard Ben-Veniste. "It remains to be seen whether anything can shame Donald Trump."

(Corrects reference to meeting between Donald Trump Jr. and a Russian lawyer in third paragraph of article published Dec. 10. Corrects Senator Richard Burr's congressional chamber in 11th paragraph.)

This column does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the editorial board or Bloomberg LP and its owners."



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