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Topic Title: Why do whites oppose the NFL protests?
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Created On: 10/17/2017 10:51 AM
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 10/19/2017 02:59 PM
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WG

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You want to talk about being right, then you point me to a fox news poll?
Seriously?
No I don't follow that sort of link.


But even a legitimate poll by a real news org probably won't get people to answer this truthfully.
People always deny their racism. Even to themselves.
Hell, the most blatant of you here are all still in constant public denial.
You post racist shit and then whine like little bitches when anybody calls your out on it.

The little bit of it that's in every white person is plenty enough for them to fear and deny the reality, to answer the question with the non-sensible answer with no connection to the truth on the field.

If you want to know what this protest about, you ask the protesters

"Because it disrespects our Military". Doesn't wash. The star spangled banner isn't our military. The flag isn't our military. The military doesn't fight for these symbols, they fight for what they supposed to represent. No NFL protester has ever bashed the military, even mentioned it. They protest because they think that we are failing to live up to the ideals. . None will say it's about the disrespecting thee military how we are failing them by not living up to what we say they are fighting for.


Your semi-fascist corporate media put this shit out there for you to eat up.
Maybe half of you even believe it.
But you are lying to yourselves..

I bet any basic research would find a strong correlation between those that say "it's about respect for the military" bullshit and who also don't accept the reality of people of color's experience at the hands of the police. Heck even do it here, I bet you don't find too many mismatched sets of opinions

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Edited: 10/19/2017 at 03:39 PM by WG
 10/19/2017 03:04 PM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: miker
Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: miker
Originally posted by: stokedpanda Majority of "white people" don't like the kneeling protest because they don't agree with the idea that cops are unjustly killing black people.
Disagree and that comment is way off with most people I know. Most people I know do not like the kneeling because it disrespects the country and those that have died for it. Most of them agree with your statement about police killings.
Which is strange because the people that died for our country died for the right for a silent protest. "I, miker, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution...." But wait a minute, you don't remember any of this do you? Disregarding our civil liberties? It's not NFL rule so that's not the case anymore either. Hmmm. Conveniently forgetting what the military stands for?
Since when does a personal opinion take away someone's civil liberties? Don't be silly. Just because they have the right to protest, doesn't mean I have to agree with how it is being done. Also, they are also protesting while on the job at work. It is pretty much up to their employer to allow that on company time or not.
The NFL just approved it so that point is moot. Saying you respect the military but do not like when someone protests when they are allowed to do so is just hypocritical. The military fights and dies for that exact reason. We'd be dishonoring the fallen heroes not to exercise said right.
 10/19/2017 03:07 PM
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cheaterfiveo

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How is it that of all the people on the planet; there exists on NSR 5 dudes who are white whom intimately know how all black people feel and what all white people need to do to fix their ancestors transgressions. You dudes need to quit your bland desk jobs and become politicians and save America
 10/19/2017 03:09 PM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: tpapablo
Originally posted by: WG I don't believe that many people really think taking a knee is disrespecting the flag or us vets. Most understand the freedom that the flag stands for. Many just don't want to in any way accept that the grievances are real enough to warrant the gesture.

Well, the polls have been wrong before, though not as many times as you have.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/27/fox-news-poll-views-shift-on-kneeling-during-national-anthem.html

As">http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017...m.html

As you have almost 100% chance of being wrong on any given position, I will go with the polls on this one.

That poll shows views have changed quite a bit over the last year.

Inappropriate: 2016: 61% 2017: 55%

Appropriate: 2016: 32% 2017: 41%

Looks like the kneeling is working. That's quite a big jump both ways.

 10/19/2017 03:10 PM
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White liberals certainly do not know how black people feel, do not speak for them and cannot save them.

But we know more than you because we are listening. And we can try to support them.

 10/19/2017 03:12 PM
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If there are only 5 dudes out here that have a clue about this, that says some bad shit about Brevard surfers and this forum.

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 10/19/2017 03:15 PM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: WG If there are only 5 dudes out here that have a clue about this, that says some bad shit about Brevard surfers and this forum.
there is only 5 dudes on the NSR
 10/19/2017 03:17 PM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: cheaterfiveo How is it that of all the people on the planet; there exists on NSR 5 dudes who are white whom intimately know how all black people feel and what all white people need to do to fix their ancestors transgressions. You dudes need to quit your bland desk jobs and become politicians and save America
So we got your vote?
 10/19/2017 05:12 PM
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cheaterfiveo

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Happy, don't let a little sarcasm give you a boner
 10/19/2017 05:18 PM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: cheaterfiveo Happy, don't let a little sarcasm give you a boner
Hey, you used and spelled sarcasm properly. You're getting better.
 10/19/2017 07:42 PM
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cheaterfiveo

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Originally posted by: SuperTeeBird

White liberals certainly do not know how black people feel, do not speak for them and cannot save them.




But we know more than you because we are listening. And we can try to support them.



Oh I get it you know more, how is that so?
It must be hard to be so humble
 10/20/2017 03:59 AM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: cheaterfiveo
Originally posted by: SuperTeeBird White liberals certainly do not know how black people feel, do not speak for them and cannot save them.

But we know more than you because we are listening. And we can try to support them.

Oh I get it you know more, how is that so? It must be hard to be so humble
Apparently cheater wasn't listening to what you just said. Hahahah
 10/20/2017 05:25 AM
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Arrogance, there was a topic about that, seems to be a lib trait!



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 10/20/2017 05:26 AM
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Saying you respect the military but do not like when someone protests when they are allowed to do so is just hypocritical. The military fights and dies for that exact reason. We'd be dishonoring the fallen heroes not to exercise said right.


Please tell me that you have the capacity to understand the following:

1. You can support the right for someone to protest without agreeing with their methods of doing so.

2. You can support a cause without agreeing with the methodology used to protest.

3. You can support the right to protest without agreeing with the cause at all.


Judging by your responses, I am wondering if you actually understand that.
 10/20/2017 05:40 AM
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Originally posted by: miker
Originally posted by: HAPDigital Saying you respect the military but do not like when someone protests when they are allowed to do so is just hypocritical. The military fights and dies for that exact reason. We'd be dishonoring the fallen heroes not to exercise said right.
Please tell me that you have the capacity to understand the following: 1. You can support the right for someone to protest without agreeing with their methods of doing so. 2. You can support a cause without agreeing with the methodology used to protest. 3. You can support the right to protest without agreeing with the cause at all. Judging by your responses, I am wondering if you actually understand that.
I do understand that. I guess it goes along with your right to be a hypocrite.
 10/20/2017 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by: crankit Arrogance, there was a topic about that, seems to be a lib trait!

 

The old blue collar "you tink you bettah dan me? Huh?".

Get over it. I ain't gonna dumb stuff down for anyone. If it's over your head, there is this thing called the internets where you can find explanations...but it requires you to read.

 10/20/2017 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by: cheaterfiveo How is it that of all the people on the planet; there exists on NSR 5 dudes who are white whom intimately know how all black people feel and what all white people need to do to fix their ancestors transgressions. You dudes need to quit your bland desk jobs and become politicians and save America

No, no. Diversity trainers.



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 10/20/2017 10:42 AM
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miker

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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Originally posted by: miker

Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Saying you respect the military but do not like when someone protests when they are allowed to do so is just hypocritical. The military fights and dies for that exact reason. We'd be dishonoring the fallen heroes not to exercise said right.




Please tell me that you have the capacity to understand the following:



1. You can support the right for someone to protest without agreeing with their methods of doing so.



2. You can support a cause without agreeing with the methodology used to protest.



3. You can support the right to protest without agreeing with the cause at all.





Judging by your responses, I am wondering if you actually understand that.


I do understand that. I guess it goes along with your right to be a hypocrite.


Much like your right to be douche bag. The only difference is that I am not a hypocrite.
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