Dershowitz: Russia investigation 'endangers democracy'
BY JOHN BOWDEN - 08/20/17 07:00 AM EDT

Attorney Alan Dershowitz says special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia "endangers Democracy."

"The idea of trying to create crimes just because we disagree with [Trump] politically, and target him, really endangers democracy. [It] reminds me of what the head of the KGB said to Stalin: 'Show me the man, and I will find you the crime,'" Dershowitz told John Catsimatidis on New York's AM 970 in an interview that aired on Sunday.

"[This is] where things happen in darkness and secrecy. The American public doesn't learn about it," he said, accusing the investigators of not sharing information with the public. "This exactly the wrong way to approach the problem of Russia's attempt to influence American election. We do not know what is going on. We get leaks, but the leaks are selective leaks."

The Harvard law scholar, who is an opinion contributor to The Hill, also criticized former FBI Director James Comey, whom he called one of the "worst offenders" of leaks that have encouraged other members of government to leak classified information.
"One of the worst offenders of leaks is the former head of the FBI, Comey," Dershowitz says. "[He] created a very very bad precedent for people in government, making it sound like it is okay to leak material. It is not okay to leak material."

Comey had a friend leak several memos of his conversations with President Trump to the New York Times shortly after he was dismissed from the FBI in May.

The conversations detailed in the memos, in which Trump appears to ask Comey to drop his investigation of former national security adviser Michael Flynn, are widely credited as the deciding factor that led to the formation of Mueller's special counsel office.

Mueller has been investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 election and alleged collusion between Trump campaign staff and Moscow.

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Dora Hates You

If he thinks an investigation is dangerous, wait until he sees what he finds. That will undo him, and trump.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

If he thinks the investigation endangers democracy, the lack of an investigation would be a green light to dictatorship.

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"I remember South Africa in the late 70's, sleeping on the beach at J-bay, smoking ganja with the blacks. On weekends we'd go to the pub in East London to drink beer and fight with the Afrikaners. They liked to fight, I liked to fight. It was a good time"

Kinda like the lack of obama era investigations? Jeez you guys are really shallow

Did you hear that Hillary's emails ran over the counter protester?

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

I remember when they investigate Obama for using fancy mustard.

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I was right.

Bullshit!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Ah the fertilizer to grow the crops.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

According to Daniel Hoffman, former CIA Station Chief in Moscow from 2012-2017, there is no evidence of collusion between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin — as we have asserted repeatedly.

Hoffman told NPR, "Overall I haven't seen any evidence of anyone actually colluding with the Russians — of Russian intelligence colluding with a campaign to cause harm to another."

In his New York Times op-ed, "It Wasn't About Collusion," Hoffman says Putin deliberately left a trail of breadcrumbs from Trump Tower to the Kremlin.

On the meeting with Trump Jr., Hoffman says, "It pointed to a discoverable influence operation rather than some effort to establish a clandestine channel for collusion."

Hoffman told CNN, "I think the evidence from that meeting points to an effort by the Kremlin to influence rather than some sort of a covert back channel for collusion. Vladimir Putin wants to soil our democratic institutions, and I think he found the best way to do that would be to tie us to the Kremlin."

In other words, as we have also repeatedly argued, the whole "Trump/Putin collusion" charade has been propagated by the Demo/MSM propaganda machine to undermine the legitimacy of Trump's election.

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Romans 8;18-32 John 3;16-18

In other words? No. The point is that they had compromising Intel on the president and they were playing both sides. "Influence" did not mean sway, it meant that the Russians could extort the president and undermine America's faith in its election. You cannot inflict your lack of comprehension on the people you are trying to convince as proof that something didn't happen. Just because you didn't understand doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Not surprising Dershowitz is simultaneously calling for transparency and critical of leaks while claiming law enforcement puts democracy at risk. He's also said, "we're a republic, not a democracy."

With your simply amazing comprehension; where is any proof?

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Romans 8;18-32 John 3;16-18

That CIA article is misleading. One guy says that and he says there is no evidence (that he has seen), not "CIA refutes".

Sure, what he says is possible, but wherever that article came from is a bunch of hacks.

Here's one thing it doesn't say: "What's so bad about Russia anyway?"

Meeting with Russians in private multiple times during an election endangers democracy.

There was a time when Trump being implicated in Russian collusion would cause a serious split in America; that time has passed. Trump is failing on his own, Russia is but one of his extremely large problems.

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I was right.

And you can bet most voters aren't in love with the meetings.

"I haven't seen any evidence"
is translated into:
"there is no evidence".

Surely you can see that as BS.

"The idea of trying to create crimes just because we disagree with [Trump] politically, and target him, really endangers democracy."

It would if that was what was happening, but try as you might, this is not about disagreeing with Trump politically, and certainly not about "creating crimes".
That's just fucking lazy partisanship.
He, you, everybody has to know that the Mueller investigation is non partisan, that it can't "create crimes", it only get closer to and expose the truth.

Sure those of us that saw all along and were open about what a piece of shit Trump was are eagerly awaiting his perp walk.
Many people who even think they agreed with his politics see it now too.
Those of you that allied with him will have a lot of explaining when he goes down.


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

If!

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Romans 8;18-32 John 3;16-18

"If" nothing comes of it, Trump will still have to deal with the rest of the shit-show he has created.



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I was right.

Alan Dershowitz is it? You mean THIS alan dershowitz?

Much of his legal career has focused on criminal law, and his clients have included high-profile figures such as Patty Hearst, Harry Reems, Leona Helmsley, Jim Bakker, Mike Tyson, Michael Milken, O.J. Simpson and Kirtanananda Swami. Dershowitz also reports to have been one of Nelson Mandela's lawyers. He sees himself as a "lawyer of last resort" - someone to turn to when the defendant has few other legal options - and takes those cases that are what he calls "the most challenging, the most difficult and precedent-setting cases"
In 1976, Dershowitz handled the successful appeal of Harry Reems, who had been convicted of distribution of obscenity resulting from his acting in the pornographic movie Deep Throat. In public debates, Dershowitz commonly argues against censorship of pornography on First Amendment grounds, and maintains that consumption of pornography is not harmful.
Dershowitz represented Claus von Bülow, a British socialite, at his appeal for the attempted murder of his wife, Sunny von Bülow, who went into a coma in Newport, Rhode Island, in 1980 (and later died in 2008). He had the conviction overturned, and von Bülow was acquitted in a retrial. Dershowitz told the story of the case in his book, Reversal of Fortune: Inside the von Bülow case (1985), which was turned into a movie in 1990. Dershowitz was played by actor Ron Silver, and Dershowitz himself had a cameo role as a judge.
In 1989, Dershowitz filed a defamation suit against Cardinal Józef Glemp, then Archbishop of Warsaw, on behalf of Rabbi Avi Weiss. Glemp had accused Weiss and six other New York Jews of attacking nuns at a much-disputed convent on the site of the Auschwitz concentration camp. Glemp's statement about Weiss, made in July 1989, was coupled with suggestions that Jews control the world's news media. Dershowitz's account of the lawsuit appears in his book Chutzpah.
pson CO. J. Simpson (1995)
In the O. J. Simpson murder case, Dershowitz acted as an appellate adviser to O. J. Simpson's defense team during the trial, and later wrote a book about it, Reasonable Doubts: The Criminal Justice System and the O. J. Simase (1996). He wrote: "the Simpson case will not be remembered in the next century. It will not rank as one of the trials of the century. It will not rank with the Nuremberg trials, the Rosenberg trial, Sacco and Vanzetti. It is on par with Leopold and Loeb and the Lindbergh case, all involving celebrities. It is also not one of the most important cases of my own career. I would rank it somewhere in the middle in terms of interest and importance. The case has been described as the most publicized criminal trial in American history.
Jeffrey Epstein (2006)
Dershowitz provided legal assistance to billionaire Jeffrey Epstein, who was investigated following accusations that he had repeatedly solicited sex from minors. Dershowitz investigated some of Epstein's accusers and provided both the police and the State attorney's office with a dossier containing information about plaintiffs' behavior, which had been obtained from their personal MySpace pages, including allegations of alcohol and drug use. Eventually, in 2008, Epstein pleaded guilty to a single state charge of soliciting prostitution and began serving an 18-month sentence.
Politics
Dershowitz is an avowed supporter of the Democratic Party. In 2016, he stated that he would cancel his party membership if Keith Ellison was appointed party chair; Tom Perez was appointed instead. Dershowitz endorsed Hillary Clinton in the 2008 presidential election, and later endorsed the party nominee, Barack Obama.
2nd Amendment and gun control
Dershowitz is a strong supporter of gun control. He has criticized the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, saying that it has "no place in modern society". Dershowitz supports repealing the amendment, but he vigorously opposes using the judicial system to read it out of the Constitution because it would open the way for further revisions to the Bill of Rights and Constitution by the courts. "Foolish liberals who are trying to read the Second Amendment out of the Constitution by claiming it's not an individual right or that it's too much of a public safety hazard don't see the danger in the big picture. They're courting disaster by encouraging others to use the same means to eliminate portions of the Constitution they don't like."
Presidential candidates
During the 2008 Democratic Party primaries, Dershowitz endorsed Hillary Clinton, calling her "a progressive on social issues, a realist on foreign policy, a pragmatist on the economy." In 2012, he strongly supported Barack Obama's re-election, writing, "President Obama has earned my vote on the basis of his excellent judicial appointments, his consensus-building foreign policy and the improvements he has brought about in the disastrous economy he inherited."
Sexual assault allegations
On December 30, 2014, a Florida court filing named Alan Dershowitz as one of several prominent figures alleged to have participated in sexual activities with a minor. The motion states that Dershowitz had sexual relations on several occasions with an underage girl later identified as Virginia Roberts, employed by financier and convicted sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein. Dershowitz, who represented Epstein in his 2008 plea deal, denied the allegations. Dershowitz challenged Roberts to make her claims under oath; on January 21, 2015 Roberts submitted a sworn declaration reaffirming the allegations.
Dershowitz has vowed to seek the disbarment of the lawyers filing the suit while lawyers representing the alleged victim have countered by filing suit against Dershowitz for defamation. Dershowitz alleges unfairness in the United States legal system, saying lawyers can make false accusations against him or against other parties in court documents while the accused cannot sue for defamation due to litigation privilege.

You mean THAT alan doucheawitz?
Yep, sure seems like a legit, upstanding, credible moral authority for the chumpf dirt types to be using as a spokesscum to me.....
Actually, just par for the course for this corrupt regime....






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It's a democratic hoax

I know right? They should have investigated Hillery and Bengazi for sure, and her email thing. But at least now that Obama is gone we can vote to repeal Obamacare!

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"I remember South Africa in the late 70's, sleeping on the beach at J-bay, smoking ganja with the blacks. On weekends we'd go to the pub in East London to drink beer and fight with the Afrikaners. They liked to fight, I liked to fight. It was a good time"