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 08/16/2017 03:06 PM
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The most prominent lie. This is clogging social media and comment sections at any news site that has comments enabled. It is repeated nearly verbatim as if all parrotted from a single source:

Liberals are trying to erase history by removing commemorative statues from various public spaces.

Can't really be further from the truth. Seems to be teaching people history even if you have to beat them over the head with it to try to push aside the Breitbart version and teach them the version that I learned in parochial school over 20 years ago.

Supposedly the liberal media indoctrinated me but it is the damndest thing that the history I know was taught to me in history and government class by a retired Air Force colonel and that includes the history of the southern US from 1865 to 1964. 

The next layer of bullshit narrative is comparing liberals to ISIS. Well, if ISIS suggested that the religious iconography be moved into a museum or religious space after a city council vote as opposed to just blowing shit up...

Maybe all those people in eastern Europe that have toppled statues of Lenin over the years are ISIS too.

 



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 08/16/2017 03:12 PM
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fishkller

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They got rid of Swastikas in Germany after the war, and you will still be arrested for doing the salute to this day. >> http://www.nytimes.com/2017/08...tourists.html?mcubz=1

Not to mention Nazi related objects, etc.

I'd say America is pretty loose with its rules on Nazi stuff and its counterparts.

People just don't want these things out in a public square. Its still history, no one is denying that and no one is trying to sweep it under a rug- just put it in a museum or some other appropriate location.

You can't wrap your car in hardcore porn, why should we have to look at this crap in a public space?

God what a bunch of whiny pussies.. white people aren't going anywhere, damn just STFU

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 08/16/2017 04:07 PM
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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: fishkller

God what a bunch of whiny pussies.. white people aren't going anywhere, damn just STFU


I guess if you're privileged, equality can be mistaken for oppression.

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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck
Originally posted by: fishkller God what a bunch of whiny pussies.. white people aren't going anywhere, damn just STFU
I guess if you're privileged, equality can be mistaken for oppression.
 08/16/2017 04:48 PM
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Anyone here actually know any germans who had their home towns blown off the map? Or lost an entire generation of their best and brightest to stupid FUCKING HITLERISM? I do....
How about russians under stalinism? Stalin made gay adolf look like a boyscout. In slaughtering his own people.
And a whole shit load of east germans, polish, austrians ukrainians, hungarians? I know the survivors, and their kids.
Stalin and twittler were allies, you ignorant chumpfscums.
Joey Stalin just used communism as a tool to further his facist agenda.
Lots more to come chumpf commie/facist ignorant scum....how did mericans get so uneducated, utterly ignorant.
and utterly fucking STUPID? duuhhhh...

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 08/16/2017 05:16 PM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: nukeh2o Anyone here actually know any germans who had their home towns blown off the map? Or lost an entire generation of their best and brightest to stupid FUCKING HITLERISM? I do.... How about russians under stalinism? Stalin made gay adolf look like a boyscout. In slaughtering his own people. And a whole shit load of east germans, polish, austrians ukrainians, hungarians? I know the survivors, and their kids. Stalin and twittler were allies, you ignorant chumpfscums. Joey Stalin just used communism as a tool to further his facist agenda. Lots more to come chumpf commie/facist ignorant scum....how did mericans get so uneducated, utterly ignorant. and utterly fucking STUPID? duuhhhh...
When I was in the Army I lived near a town in Italy that had massive 50 caliber bullet holes all over it among many other towns with ruins and shambles from that war. I also took part in an airborne drop reenactment in Sainte-Mère-Église (Where Movie Longest Day takes place) and the locals that were children at the time the actual drop happened fell to their knees crying hugging the soldiers because they remember being oppressed by Nazis first hand. I have video of it. It was overwhelming. People don't get it. Then for more "fun" we went to Omaha Beach and the cemetery. Then in the 90s I took part in the first airborne drop into Kosovo circa Operation Allied Force. We lost a soldier that day while making a presence in a place where "ethnic cleansing" was a "thing." Privileged and Ignorant is right. No respect for our country nor its history or even world history for that matter. They just think it all was a thing that happened far away and long ago with different facts that suit their flavor of the day and they think it won't happen again. Well I got news for you it's happening and it can damn very well happen again if we don't stifle these ass clowns. Ridiculous.
 08/16/2017 05:32 PM
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Hap, much gratitude for your service. We hope there are many more like you that understand the scourge of the NAZI.

I don't understand how these fuck nuts can get a "permit" Nazi have no civil rights. I compare trump to hitler everyday. I know my history. The similarities are overwhelming.

I fear for my son in the USAF serving in Afghanistan. I fear for my nephew flying F18s off the carrier deck in the Sea of Japan. I fear for my son in law , an MD in the US Army reserve. They have a CIC who is grossly unfit for duty.
Alt left, I have no idea what that means. But for damn sure if those Nazi freaks come parading down my street, they will regret it.

trump supporters are capitulating everyday. For most, this is not what they signed up for. Toast, finished. The republican leadership needs to get right sided on this quick or they will be toast also.

If that was a Muslim or a Mexican driving that car, a lot more shit would be hitting the fan. Hypocrisy on full display. "Wake up Amerika."


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 08/16/2017 05:48 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: jdbman
Nazi have no civil rights. "


Liar!

Every citizen of the United States have just as much civil rights as you do!

Fact!

Muslim citizens, fascist citizens, commie citizens, democrap citizens....

ALL have the same rights as you!

If you're a citizen here it's the SAME FOR ALL!

MORON!

Why do you think you're better than someone else or that YOUR agenda is more important...or your ideas are more important?

They aren't!

Fool!

The FALSE NARRATIVE...is you!

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 08/16/2017 06:01 PM
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nukeh2o

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Well said sir. In south fla, i know MANY folks who survived gay hitler. Only to then be enslaved under stalinism.
Some escaped to israel. or here....
or slavic and aryan families interned. if not slaughtered by stalin....
You're an inbred pointy head chumpf dirt? Want to embrace putins stalinism? Or chickentshit "neo nazism".
I would like to make you scum chumps aware: you are up against utterly dedicated, utterly loyal Americans. Who will not stand for stalinist interference in our electoral system. Or any form of reinsurgence of nazi ism in this, their adoptive, refuge country they escaped and survived to.
They wont be waving little signs, or chanting slogans..
They'll be shoulder to shoulder with folks like me. Guarding our wonderful country against fascists and racists.
So you want to meet up for a dance GlubGlub.
I suggest you chumpf dimwits wise up, be more polite. and careful

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 08/16/2017 06:38 PM
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Fish Killer

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Hate to break this to you....

You lost the election.

Killary AND Bernie lost!

No you don't to get a re-do.

No you don't get to take over the Presidency!

You pissed off the majority of this country and that group in now even MORE pissed off at you!

If you think that the group that elected Trump is getting smaller you're out of your mind!

It's getting bigger by the day due directly you you and your group's shit!

You won't be changing this country to ANY THING involving your agenda.

Not happening!

Trust me...you pissed off the really huge beast that actually makes this country run and function...

It's called the middle class regular person that has a job and pays bills.

Keep telling yourself your gaining ground...keep looking at all of those phony polls your guys produce!

The next time you turn around (midterms) your REALLY going to find out who exactly you pissed off!

Everyone is now on to your party's tricks crap and thevery!

Obama isn't in office to cover all the illegal crap!

Your agenda is actually done..you just haven't figured it out yet!

Fool!

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 08/16/2017 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by: jdbman Hap, much gratitude for your service. We hope there are many more like you that understand the scourge of the NAZI. I don't understand how these fuck nuts can get a "permit" Nazi have no civil rights. I compare trump to hitler everyday. I know my history. The similarities are overwhelming. I fear for my son in the USAF serving in Afghanistan. I fear for my nephew flying F18s off the carrier deck in the Sea of Japan. I fear for my son in law , an MD in the US Army reserve. They have a CIC who is grossly unfit for duty. Alt left, I have no idea what that means. But for damn sure if those Nazi freaks come parading down my street, they will regret it. trump supporters are capitulating everyday. For most, this is not what they signed up for. Toast, finished. The republican leadership needs to get right sided on this quick or they will be toast also. If that was a Muslim or a Mexican driving that car, a lot more shit would be hitting the fan. Hypocrisy on full display. "Wake up Amerika."
Luckily we still have good leadership in the Military with solid ethics. I have a feeling the brass is going to come into play soon. I think your son and nephew are in very good hands. Trump or not. He may be CiC but still doesn't mean he gets to do what he wants. We've already seen that with the transgender thing. He didn't and couldn't do shit. It's not going to happen. Wish your boys well. I'm sure they'll make us all proud.
 08/16/2017 07:29 PM
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Were you in a PIR?

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Originally posted by: SuperTeeBird Were you in a PIR?

No, I was Air Assault qualified with 101st, no airborne unit in my time unfortunately. They dont send you unless you are attached to an airborne unit or you requeat it upon a reinlistment or something. I was like combat camera, documented everything with airborne infantry and artillery mainly. Did some time with the Navy and Air Force as well. Was an awesome job and experience. I saw it all.
 08/17/2017 03:41 AM
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Nazis have no civil rights.

There is no Nazi Party. Nazis are a criminal conspiracy. All are guilty of hate crimes.
Every time these fuckers raise their ugly heads they will be confronted. There is no alt left. There are Patriotic Americans who view Nazis for what they are, inhuman pigs with no right to exists.

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Fish Killer, do you agree with: "The city is run by Jews, Communists and criminal Niggers."

It is a yes or no question.




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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: Cole

It is a yes or no question.


No it's not.

Liar!

(your sentence is taken out of context. As for the individual WORDS in the sentence I only object to ONE....the term "NI**ERS". The term is legal to use due to the 1st amendment, but it's very offensive to some.)

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 08/17/2017 05:56 AM
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Originally posted by: scombrid The most prominent lie. This is clogging social media and comment sections at any news site that has comments enabled. It is repeated nearly verbatim as if all parrotted from a single source:

Liberals are trying to erase history by removing commemorative statues from various public spaces.



I don't know anyone who believes this. I don't know anyone who actually believes that the alt-left on the ground even know the history or the stories behind most of the statues they are trying to take down.

This isn't about history at all. It is about power.

KKK rallies have existed under every president since I have been alive. People have laughed at the small amount of people who turned out to them and then they went away.The alt-left has been able to suppress opposing viewpoints from entering college campuses, which are supposed to be a place to exchange ideas, by rioting and using violence. Now they intend on suppressing this speech and these ideas because they don't like them, with violence.

Whether or not the racists or Neo-nazi's are clowns or not, they had a permit and the people marching up there on the alt-left with bats and whatever knew what they were doing. Unfortunately, the dickhead who ran the car into the crowd of people gave the organizers on the alt-left exactly what they wanted. The organizers might not have wanted that girl dead but they wanted headlines and they wanted a spark. Same as they wanted when they sent people to instigate violence at Trump rallies when he was running. Dickhead in the car gave them that.

None of these people give a shit about the history or who these statues represent. They want to piss some people off, embolden others, and divide us as a country. It is about power, plain and simple.

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 08/17/2017 06:04 AM
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: SuperTeeBird Were you in a PIR?

 

No, I was Air Assault qualified with 101st, no airborne unit in my time unfortunately. They dont send you unless you are attached to an airborne unit or you requeat it upon a reinlistment or something. I was like combat camera, documented everything with airborne infantry and artillery mainly. Did some time with the Navy and Air Force as well. Was an awesome job and experience. I saw it all.

Very cool.

 08/17/2017 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by: Sniper
Originally posted by: scombrid The most prominent lie. This is clogging social media and comment sections at any news site that has comments enabled. It is repeated nearly verbatim as if all parrotted from a single source:

 

Liberals are trying to erase history by removing commemorative statues from various public spaces.

 

I don't know anyone who believes this. I don't know anyone who actually believes that the alt-left on the ground even know the history or the stories behind most of the statues they are trying to take down. This isn't about history at all. It is about power. KKK rallies have existed under every president since I have been alive. People have laughed at the small amount of people who turned out to them and then they went away.The alt-left has been able to suppress opposing viewpoints from entering college campuses, which are supposed to be a place to exchange ideas, by rioting and using violence. Now they intend on suppressing this speech and these ideas because they don't like them, with violence. Whether or not the racists or Neo-nazi's are clowns or not, they had a permit and the people marching up there on the alt-left with bats and whatever knew what they were doing. Unfortunately, the dickhead who ran the car into the crowd of people gave the organizers on the alt-left exactly what they wanted. The organizers might not have wanted that girl dead but they wanted headlines and they wanted a spark. Same as they wanted when they sent people to instigate violence at Trump rallies when he was running. Dickhead in the car gave them that. None of these people give a shit about the history or who these statues represent. They want to piss some people off, embolden others, and divide us as a country. It is about power, plain and simple.

This is about a nation trying to recenter itself, as always. I hate the four turnings BS, but this is kind of what happens when things get stuck. Eventually, things move more than the traditionalists like and less than the progressives like and settle down.

 08/17/2017 06:10 AM
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Originally posted by: Sniper
Originally posted by: scombrid The most prominent lie. This is clogging social media and comment sections at any news site that has comments enabled. It is repeated nearly verbatim as if all parrotted from a single source:

 

Liberals are trying to erase history by removing commemorative statues from various public spaces.

 

I don't know anyone who believes this. I don't know anyone who actually believes that the alt-left on the ground even know the history or the stories behind most of the statues they are trying to take down. This isn't about history at all. It is about power. KKK rallies have existed under every president since I have been alive. People have laughed at the small amount of people who turned out to them and then they went away.The alt-left has been able to suppress opposing viewpoints from entering college campuses, which are supposed to be a place to exchange ideas, by rioting and using violence. Now they intend on suppressing this speech and these ideas because they don't like them, with violence. Whether or not the racists or Neo-nazi's are clowns or not, they had a permit and the people marching up there on the alt-left with bats and whatever knew what they were doing. Unfortunately, the dickhead who ran the car into the crowd of people gave the organizers on the alt-left exactly what they wanted. The organizers might not have wanted that girl dead but they wanted headlines and they wanted a spark. Same as they wanted when they sent people to instigate violence at Trump rallies when he was running. Dickhead in the car gave them that. None of these people give a shit about the history or who these statues represent. They want to piss some people off, embolden others, and divide us as a country. It is about power, plain and simple.

Exactly. And whats scary is these tactics are supported by the media, thus supported by usefull idiots. The real threat to this country is not the alt-right. The alt-right is a made up BS false flag. Although the right has its fair share of extremist assholes, it not at the level the media/the alt-left makes you think. I mean think about it, the term "alt-right" didn't even appear on the radar untill the day Trump won the election.

Falsely tie Trump, his supporters, and those who want to maintain their southern culture to the Nazis, and now you can shut down whatever they have to say. This forum is a classic example of the prejudices, name calling, and verbal assaults thrown you way if you have a difference of opinion. The idea of "free exchange of ideas, freedom of speech" is absolutely lost on these guys.

Its trully a scary time......

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