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 07/27/2017 08:14 AM
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Cosmicviking

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I believe Trumps obvious personality/ psychological issues pose a greater threat than any possible Russian collusion.

 07/27/2017 08:29 AM
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WG

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I absolutely agree with that, but it was the collusion that got him elected, and that was treason.
A 25th amendment solution would be great, but I don't see the GOP supporting it.

"Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President."

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 07/27/2017 08:33 AM
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crankit

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And your PROOF of collusion is??



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 07/27/2017 08:34 AM
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WG

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wait for it.
wait for Mueller time.

Nothing real will happen until then.

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 07/27/2017 09:07 AM
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SuperTeeBird

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Originally posted by: Cosmicviking Thank you for answering WG. Well thought honest response. Take note Tbird.

 

You got the response you deserved IMO.

 07/27/2017 09:09 AM
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Cosmicviking

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I don't think thats why she lost.  Hillary was an extremely flawed canidate. Many people were looking for a change, much like in ' 08 wnen Obama won. I don't think many people new how psychologically challenged Trump is. knowing what I see now in his behavior I would not have voted for him and I definitely would not have voted for Hillary. Hope fully there will be better canidates next time around. I do however support some of his agenda where business and deregulation is concerned.

 07/27/2017 09:15 AM
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WG

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I agree she was flawed, and damaged by decades of partisanship, but not flawed enough to cause so many otherwise rational people to vote for a lying sack of shit instead.
But the Russian lies campaign was very effective, and I do believe that that (and Comey's last minute huge mistake) were enough to turn the tide.
I hope we get the chance to vote again.

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 07/27/2017 09:22 AM
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cheaterfiveo

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Yeah she never lied, thats fricking hilarious
 07/27/2017 09:24 AM
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Cosmicviking

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I dont think there were many lies released in those hacked emails or what Comey was looking into. No one from the DNC has denied the authenticity of them , just that they were hacked. Granted what Comey did was odd but I don't think he had any choice.

 07/27/2017 09:25 AM
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WG

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perspective child.

yes, she lied
a molehill of lies vs a mountain,
To not see that requires blindness

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 07/27/2017 09:31 AM
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WG

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I think Comey was trying to do the right thing, but he screwed it up.
He has stated that the thought that he may have skewed the election nauseated him.
Nate Silver's analysis is convincing that he probably did.


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 07/27/2017 09:36 AM
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WG

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But we are way off topic, which was basically one that I agree with.
"A better deal" is a lame slogan.
If the Democrats want to win we need to figure out how to prove to working white people that we are on their side too(we are).
Lame slogans and image management won't cut it.


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 07/27/2017 09:36 AM
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Cosmicviking

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If Hillary had not mishandled classified documents she would not have been under investigation.  People need to own up to their mistakes. If any civilian had done what she did they would be in jail.

 07/27/2017 09:37 AM
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Cosmicviking

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Agreed , peace out

 07/27/2017 09:37 AM
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WG

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No, they wouldn't.
The scope was too light for jail time, the classification level low and markings not so clear.
Nobody would go to jail for what she did.


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 07/27/2017 09:40 AM
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I think Comey impacted the election more than the Russians. People that were on the line thought she may very well be indicted. Now that shoe is on the other foot and it may very well fit.

FTR, my candidate was never in question of being indicted, probably doesn't even know any Russians and damn sure wouldn't have appointed Jeff Sessions.

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 07/27/2017 10:51 AM
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crankit

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Democrat--the party of the Rich and poor--Not middle class!



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 07/27/2017 12:00 PM
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WG

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There is no such thing as the Democrat party.
I don't get why Republicans persist in misnaming the opposition.
Is Democratic party too hard to say?

What is rich what is poor?
I'll agree that Republicans don't give a crap about the poor, but how is the Democratic party the party of the rich?
Is it us that focuses so on keeping their taxes low above all else?
I don't think so.

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 07/27/2017 12:02 PM
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WG

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Originally posted by: worksuxgetsponsered

I think Comey impacted the election more than the Russians. People that were on the line thought she may very well be indicted. Now that shoe is on the other foot and it may very well fit.



FTR, my candidate was never in question of being indicted, probably doesn't even know any Russians and damn sure wouldn't have appointed Jeff Sessions.


Comey's stunt swung just enough on the fence voters to screw us.

But the fact that a disaster like Donald was even in the game was due to so much fake news being spread by the Russian. I believe this to be true because so many Donald voters believed so much stuff that was NOT TRUE, but they had seen it so often in the fake news feeds, they swallowed it.

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 07/27/2017 12:25 PM
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Poor and middle class;

http://www.aei.org/spotlight/the-obama-economy-perry/



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