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 07/25/2017 01:23 PM
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Zeus

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So that's the Democrats new idea huh?  That seems to imply their prior deal was a pretty crappy one, and by its very name says it falls short of the best deal.  I don't think Chuck thought this one through very well, becasue it comes across like a used car sales pitch, but at least he's honest about it. 

Pocahontas Warren should have called BS on this PR idea right away becasue that's what the government offered the Native Americans, over and over, yet their deal just got worse and worse.  What's to make me think this better deal will any differnt for us then it was for them?

This better deal is going to be where they promise us all kinds of things that they'll use our tax dollars to pay for.  My bad, I meant to say "other people's tax dollars."  After all it only works when they promise you something that someone else has.

This is how socialism gets rebranded if you only do a 1/2 ass job of it.

 07/25/2017 01:32 PM
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WG

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I agree that it's a lame slogan, but certainly most Americans will get a better deal from a party that doesn't base its soul on coddling the rich and it's election victories on the work of hostile foreign intelligence services.
Racist slurs don't help your argument.

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Edited: 07/25/2017 at 01:39 PM by WG
 07/25/2017 01:43 PM
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theglide

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Pocahontas Warren


Is it me or do today's "libertarians" sound very tea baggerish?
 07/25/2017 01:54 PM
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Greensleeves

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Zoos likes the GOP slogan, "the rich are better than you"

 07/25/2017 02:15 PM
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Cosmicviking

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Thats funny WG! last time I checked both parties in congress were filled with RICH GUYS AND GALS.  Which is why nothing ever gets done for those that arent RICH. When is every one going to wake the fuck up and realise both parties are the same. They just make different promises that they never keep. Lets just keep letting them  divide all of us while they laugh all the way to the bank.

 07/25/2017 02:23 PM
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WG

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Both parties are far from the same.
One party is for huge tax cuts for the rich, the other is not.

But we can argue and maybe find the middle ground on that later.
Less reliance on racists slurs will help.

But more importantly:

One party nominated and still enables a senile racist misogynist lying traitor President who's unfitness for office endangers us all. That party has gotta own, get past and fix that before there can be much coming together.



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malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 07/25/2017 at 02:30 PM by WG
 07/25/2017 02:29 PM
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fishkller

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^^
Thats pretty much the situation right there.

Weve got to keep the lunatics from running the asylum first..



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 07/25/2017 02:29 PM
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Greensleeves

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They don't like the minimum wage, they don't like medicaid, they pretend they don't like illegal immigration (pssst it benefits you know who), they want to eliminate taxes on the wealthy (I mean job creators), Citizens United, Death tax, and on and on

While they are all rich, one party supports the rich to a degree that is quite possibly harmful to the rest of the citizens of the US 

 07/25/2017 02:38 PM
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Cosmicviking

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The president is not King, thank GOD, but congress whether they are Republican or Democrat are the ones who pass the bills. Maybe I missed some thing but I have not seen either party do any thing to help me or my small business out. So maybe I am just bitter.  I just see the rich get richer no matter which party is in control.

 07/25/2017 02:44 PM
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WG

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The president thinks he is King.
His followers seem to want that too.
They need to be rudely awakened.

I don't care much about anything else as long as this emergency exists.

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 07/25/2017 02:54 PM
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Cosmicviking

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Ok,  I guess thats why nothing changes.  I guess you never learned how the three branches of government work.  They were designed to have checks and balances so 1 branch could not get too far out of line. All I am saying is , until congress figures out that we elected them to do whats best for the people of this country and not themselves we will continue to suffer.

 07/25/2017 03:11 PM
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WG

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We elected them to support the Constitution.
That means impeaching a traitor President.
That's a very important check and balance
A congress that figures that out could give us some hope.
As long as they abet him, we will continue to flounder.

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 07/25/2017 03:21 PM
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Cosmicviking

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Do you honestly think Obama followed the Constitution or the Bushes or the Clintons? Please wake up.

 07/25/2017 03:26 PM
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Cosmicviking

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Just because you get impeached doesnt mean you have to leave office. Just wait 3 years and vote in another wacko. If I ever vote again I will be voting against every incumbant no matter what party they are. If every one did that maybe the POLITRICKSTERS would get the message.

 07/25/2017 04:37 PM
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WG

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Comparing Obama and this criminal is ludicrous.

Obama never conspired with our enemies to subvert our democracy.
Obama showed us his taxes
Obama wasn't beholding to gangsters
Obama didn't obstruct justice

Obama doesn't drive on golf greens

but whateverism is pointless
Obama is not President
We are faced with this crisis now

Yes, he needs to be impeached and removed from office before the republic is safe.
Until that happens, no politics matter.

And if you don't ever vote again, or even ever don't vote then the Russians win and all of this talk is pointless.


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

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 07/25/2017 04:48 PM
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Cole

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Is Trump even looking into the proven Russian interference?

He agreed that they interfered, but has done nothing but invite them to do it again. How you Trump fans don't find this disconcerting is beyond me.

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 07/25/2017 06:25 PM
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gdudewe

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Originally posted by: Cole

Is Trump even looking into the proven Russian interference?



He agreed that they interfered, but has done nothing but invite them to do it again. How you Trump fans don't find this disconcerting is beyond me.


He agreed on a Thursday and changed it by Friday. Then tweeted a bunch of shit that no one could follow.

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 07/25/2017 07:53 PM
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Cosmicviking

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What I find ludicrous is how people blindly follow their party of choice. Why is it so hard to think for yourself?  I was not comparing Obamas' constitutional blunders to Trumps, I was pointing out how all of the presidents  that I listed have often ignored the constitution.  I am not defending Trump I am trying to point out how people get locked in on one thing and can't see the Forrest through all the trees.

 07/26/2017 04:46 AM
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Cole

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What I find ludicrous is how people blindly follow their party of choice.

There are two choices and at this time the two are polar opposites in almost all areas.

The choice is one or the other. It would be lovely if moderate Independents entered the scene, but as of now, that's a pipe dream.

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 07/26/2017 05:12 AM
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chopola

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The GOP didn't want Trump any more than the democrats did. The GOP only played fair because they knew he would spoil the chances in the general election when he went Independent. The democrats and republicans are the same with respect to not giving a crap about the working class. It has been a longtime coming for these arrogant law makers.
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