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 06/28/2017 12:19 PM
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Zeus

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Strange no one's brought this state's financial situation up for discussion before becasue it is woth a study, and since it's a model for the liberal agenda it's got to be worthy of discussion.  It could serve as a lesson to the nation as awhole too.

This is a state that is over $150B behind in their obilgations, mostly in state retiree benefits and entitlements.  Even with regular tax increases the state's revenues continue to decline, and they are coming up on the 3rd full year without a state buget.  Anyday now they'll enter a negative credit spiral like Venezuela and achive a much deserved junk status.  The state will either have to cut vital services or social entitlements, perhaps both.  Either way their prolonged Democratic governance will cause grievous harm to the people of the state, yet they'll find a way to blame someone else and ask for a bailout.

Seeing how this state is the epiceter of the nation's strongest liberal enclave, thier finacial problems can't be tied to a conservative agenda or leadership, but they can be directly attibutable to that long term liberal governance.  And this is what's facinating, the people of the state still vote liberal! I'm assuming these are otherwise intelligent people who aren't seeing the correlation of cause and effect, and are clinging to political beliefs that by now have proven to be invailid to even the most causual observer. Can anyone explain why that is?

 06/28/2017 12:23 PM
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Fish Killer

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You won't get a valid or even reasonable response from progs on NSR...or from ANY liberal for that matter!

The liberals on this forum are seriously into entitlements....at ANY cost!

Including their own destruction!

Truth!

(you will however get one or two to lie out their ass so that they can look like they in fact care...but it will be a bald face lie none the less.)

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 06/28/2017 12:32 PM
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tpapablo

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Illinois is America's answer to Venezuela. Both run by progs, both suffering the same fate. California will be there soon. But FK is correct. Progs will see no lesson to be learned from these failures of prog policy. I don't think it matters to them that their ideas have been proven to be idiotic. That's irrelevant to them.



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 06/28/2017 12:51 PM
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theglide

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I'm shocked our resident "Libertarian" didn't start a thread on Kansas!

I smell a pot of hot and steamy Earl Grey brewing.

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 06/28/2017 12:53 PM
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dingpatch

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Yes, it seems that Illinois is slovenly following Venezuela's foot steps.

But, just wait, California will eventually show both of the aforementioned failures just how amateur they are!

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 06/28/2017 12:56 PM
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SuperTeeBird

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Kansas.

West Virginia.

Louisiana.

Shall I go on?



Edited: 06/28/2017 at 01:02 PM by SuperTeeBird
 06/28/2017 01:11 PM
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theglide

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Maybe the Earl Grey was a tad too strong, hence the caffeine induced agitation about Illinois.

May I suggest a milder blend, perhaps a chamomile with a hint of valerian to promote peaceful relaxation.
 06/28/2017 02:17 PM
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dingpatch

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A life-long friend lives in Chicago and works as an administrator at a "state institution". For our purposes, they are "apolitical", but, , , , ,. The state, and most local, pension system is out-of-control. The last guy in the circus parade (the one who sweeps up after the elephants and horses) gets to retire on a $60K a year pension.

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 06/28/2017 02:31 PM
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tpapablo

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This is what progs want for the entire nation. Don't vote for progs, folks.



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 06/28/2017 03:32 PM
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Cole

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They have a Republican governor, don't they?

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 06/28/2017 03:36 PM
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Cole

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From the people who live there.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...d-20160602-column.html

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 06/28/2017 04:12 PM
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theglide

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the one who sweeps up after the elephants and horses


$60K?

Steve Douchey makes 20 times as much shoveling the poop on Faux and Frauds!
 06/28/2017 04:37 PM
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dingpatch

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I was using a broad brush.

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