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Topic Title: More fake news?
Topic Summary: Manafort was working for pro Russian Ukraine Party
Created On: 06/27/2017 06:16 PM
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 06/27/2017 06:16 PM
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RustyTruck

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Don't take my word for it, read the fake news.

http://www.politico.com/story/...-agent-ukraine-240027

Tick tock M-F'ers

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 06/27/2017 06:23 PM
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theglide

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And the guy ends up being Trump's campaign manger for awhile?

What the heck is going on?
 06/27/2017 06:29 PM
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RustyTruck

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That's two foreign agents now on the trump campaign team.

They register only after they are caught.

Wake up America, the white house is compromised by our enemies.

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 06/27/2017 06:37 PM
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johnnyboy

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Poor trump was just so new to politics that manafort took advantage of him. Trump was an outsider and just didn't know all the ways this would create problems. Uninformed, misinformed and naive but not a traitor. It's a pivot. I remember when he was genius, billionaire businessman who was going to work the estsblishment like an undocumented pole.



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 06/27/2017 08:31 PM
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3rdworldlover

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"Trump forced Manafort to step down from his campaign last year after The Associated Press reported that Manafort and another Trump campaign official, Rick Gates, had secretly helped the Ukrainian Party of Regions steer money to two Washington lobbying firms through a nonprofit."

And Manafort's story is the Party of Regions is working for 'the opposite of pro-Russian takeover of Ukraine.'
Will they ever stop lying?
 06/28/2017 01:33 AM
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Fish Killer

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Sooooooo....Trump finds out about Manafort and forces him (FIRES HIM) to step down and you assholes have issue with Trumps decision?!?@!?!

Yall should be worried about SHIT like this:



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 06/28/2017 05:16 AM
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RustyTruck

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/...utm_term=.9bc668b60812

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Sniper

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Did you notice who Manafort was working for? The Podesta Group? As in the lobbying firm John Podesta co-founded and is now run by his brother, Tony.

Are you guys saying that Tony Podesta used the firm that he and his brother, John Podesta, founded to try to bring down the Hillary campaign of which John Podesta was a senior advisor to?

If not, what are you alleging here. None of your puzzle pieces look like they are fitting together.

It would appear that the Clinton campaign would have more to do with this revelation than Trump does.

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 06/28/2017 05:41 AM
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Cole

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It was legal for him to do the work, as long as he disclosed the information.

What was he doing to make him avoid disclosure?

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 06/28/2017 05:44 AM
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Sniper

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Originally posted by: Cole It was legal for him to do the work, as long as he disclosed the information. What was he doing to make him avoid disclosure?


This FNN article states that The Podesta Group didn't disclose it. It doesn't state that disclosing this information is the duty of individuals working on behalf of these firms.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
 06/28/2017 05:55 AM
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Sniper

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You guys suck at reading comprehension and critical thinking. You saw the name "Podesta" and just kept on reading?

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 06/28/2017 06:10 AM
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WG

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I saw the goose chase you were on there.
Sorry, i didn't realize you were serious.

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 06/28/2017 06:18 AM
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Sniper

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Originally posted by: WG I saw the goose chase you were on there. Sorry, i didn't realize you were serious.


See, Rusty. Even WG is starting to have doubts and agrees with me

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
 06/28/2017 06:20 AM
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SuperTeeBird

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Don't press your luck, bud.

 06/28/2017 06:25 AM
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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: Sniper

You guys suck at reading comprehension and critical thinking. You saw the name "Podesta" and just kept on reading?


You saw Podesta Group and decided that the link to the lobbying firm washes Manafort clean?

Mueller is investigating the whole thing, I trust he'll get to the bottom of it.

If it turns out trump didn't know, then it would expose him as incompetent beyond the pale. It might be that he was just the stooge and drew in enemies foreign and domestic who knew that with a bag of money and earful of compliments they could advance their anti-American agendas.

Trump may well be the central ignoramus in a rotten festering sore of corruption.

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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

Edited: 06/28/2017 at 06:48 AM by RustyTruck
 06/28/2017 06:45 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Manafort was paid $17 million by a pro-Russia outfit to set up lobbying in the US (and Europe) via a third party, a Brussels-based nonprofit masquerading as pro-western, the European Center for a Modern Ukraine.

The Podesta Group and Mercury LLC were getting paid (2.2 million) by the Brussels based firm, to lobby in the US per directions directly from Manafort.

Money laundering and covert lobbying 101
 06/28/2017 06:48 AM
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Sniper

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So, am I understanding this correctly? You guys are alleging that Tony Podesta worked with Donald Trump to send Paul Manafort to lobby for a Ukraine-based, pro-Russia, non-profit organization, in 2012-2014 so they could try to derail the Hillary Clinton campaign, which Tony Podesta's brother was basically the number 2 guy in???

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
 06/28/2017 06:53 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Nope.
Try again
 06/28/2017 06:57 AM
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RustyTruck

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The fact is that Manafort was an unregistered foreign agent of a pro-Russia Ukrainian organization.

It's also a fact that the GOP platform was mysteriously changed by pro-trump elements to benefit Russia by preventing Ukraine from being armed by the US.

Russia had agents on the inside of the trump campaign, and they helped him win using espionage techniques, and now trump (and his supporters) are trying to cover for them.

Shame on you.



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 06/28/2017 07:01 AM
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tpapablo

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Manafort consulted with a pro-Russian Ukrainian organization  before Trump was even a candidate? And that is even worthy of comment? Scraping the bottom of the Russian conspiracy barrel, don't you think?



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