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 06/25/2017 08:02 AM
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WG

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"Hillary Clinton colluded with the Democratic Party in order to beat Crazy Bernie Sanders. Is she allowed to so collude? Unfair to Bernie!"
-Asshole President

"In the President's analogy, the Democratic Party was to Clinton what the Russian Government is to him. He's not wrong."
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 06/25/2017 09:31 AM
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The DNC placed a bet on who they thought would win. They chose poorly.

It's called politics.

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 06/25/2017 10:13 AM
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Sanders was not a member of the Democratic Party. The presumptive nominee fought to keep out a democratic socialist in a way that could only be described as political. That means that wasermanschulz could do dirty things short of breaking the law. For the trump supporter to cry foul and pretend to blush at the bare knuckled brawls that comprise politics completely overlook trump's own all or nothing approach. This was the guy that tricked Romney into a high profile dinner where Romney was then brought into the the trump fold as potential participant as Secretary of State. Trump then dumped Romney and Romney was left unable to criticize him because he was so willing to believe that he was going to be Secretary of State. Or how about when trump hired bill clinton's accusers for a press conference after his very public tmz tape where he spoke about pussy grabbing and his sexual prowess.

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 06/25/2017 10:54 AM
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CNBC

Bernie Sanders and his wife reportedly lawyer up amid FBI probe: Politico Magazine

Sen. Bernie Sanders and his wife, Jane, have hired lawyers as the FBI investigates allegations of bank fraud, Politico Magazine reports.

The investigation centers around whether Jane Sanders fraudulently obtained a bank loan and whether the senator's office pressured the bank to approve the application, according to Politico.

Representatives for Sen. Sanders didn't immediately respond to a request for comment from CNBC.

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 06/25/2017 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole

The DNC placed a bet on who they thought would win. They chose poorly. It's called politics.


DNC Charter and Bylaws as of 2015:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/upload...er__Bylaws_9.17.15.pdf
The National Chairperson shall serve full time and shall receive such compensation as may be determined by agreement between the Chairperson and the Democratic National Committee.

In the conduct and management of the affairs and procedures of the Democratic National Committee, particularly as they apply to the preparation and conduct of the Presidential nomination process, the Chairperson shall exercise impartiality and evenhandedness as between the Presidential candidates and campaigns.

The Chairperson shall be responsible for ensuring that the national officers and staff of the Democratic National Committee maintain impartiality and evenhandedness during the Democratic Party Presidential nominating process.


But the DNC's attorney, much like Bill Clinton tweaking the definition of "sexual relations," says the court shouldn't be involved in trying to define "impartiality and evenhandedness."

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com...y-just-ask-lawyer.html

THE COURT: So, are you suggesting that this is just part of the business, so to speak, that it's not unusual for, let's say, the DNC, the RNC to take sides with respect to any particular candidate and to support that candidate over another?

MR. SPIVA: Well, I'm not suggesting that that is par for the course, your Honor. But what I am suggesting is to have those kinds of allegations is the rough and tumble of politics.... That's for the party to decide. The Court's not gonna get into that. Here, you have something far more inchoate, your Honor, which is this purported - this claim that the party acted without evenhandedness and impartiality. That - even to define what constitutes evenhandedness and impartiality really would already drag the Court well into a political question and a question of how the party runs its own affairs. The party could have favored a candidate. I'll put it that way.


...we could have voluntarily decided that, "Look, we're gonna go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way." That's not the way it was done. But they could have. And that would have also been their right...


Sounds like disenfranchisement to me, as well as a defrauding of their voters.
 06/25/2017 10:58 AM
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Hillary more closely matched the desires of the DNC's Masters..

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 06/25/2017 12:58 PM
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Telling that nobody questioned the premise, that Donald the Traitor sees collusion between Americans inside a political party to advance the goals of that party as the same as him colluding with foreign criminals who want a weaker America

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 06/25/2017 01:12 PM
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 06/25/2017 01:18 PM
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Two wrongs don't make a right, and many conservatives believe both the leading Dem candidates also wanted a weaker America. I certainly believe outside interference in an election disenfranchises those whom the officials are elected to represent. That includes out-of-district money/influence in local/district elections, and out-of-state money/influence in senate and gubernatorial elections.

And the goals of the party (committee) are quite clearly not the goals of the average citizen registered to vote in that party.


 06/25/2017 04:42 PM
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The DNC panicked over Bernie and they knew his own words would be his undoing in the general election, as did most of us Democrat voters. What they did was wrong and borderline illegal, but I can see their point.

If Trump knew the Russians were helping him, do you believe he would have objected to it?

Most of you Trump voters had no issue with Trump using hacked e-mail from Wikileaks as a weapon against Clinton. Hell, Tpap even admitted he would have no issue if it came from the Russians.

If what the DNC did was defrauding voters, what would you call what Trump has done?





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 06/25/2017 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by: Cole
What they did was wrong and borderline illegal,...

IT WAS ILLEGAL...but you don't give a shit about that just soo long as YOUR agenda is forwarded!


If Trump knew the Russians were helping him,....

EVERYONE KNOWS Trump knew NOTHING! MORON!


Most of you Trump voters had no issue with Trump using hacked e-mail from Wikileaks as a weapon against Clinton. Hell, Tpap even admitted he would have no issue if it came from the Russians.

ANYTHING with the Russians is in fact NOT illegal!....even though it NEVER happened!......(unlike ALL of the ILLEGAL crap Hillary was and is currently involved with...Hillary is STILL going to jail! Fact! MORON!

If what the DNC did was defrauding voters, what would you call what Trump has done?

Trump hasn't done ANYTHING...that's the POINT!
MORON!!!!!




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 06/25/2017 06:16 PM
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Trump used the hacked material. Fact.

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 06/25/2017 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

Trump used the hacked material. Fact.


Yo....MORON....some LIAR claimed it was "russian"!

PROVE IT!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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 06/25/2017 06:41 PM
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Collusion is not the problem. There are 4-5 other laws set against those that conspire with foreign nationals to sway a US election. Say collusion is legal all you want but in the end laws were broken.
 06/25/2017 06:56 PM
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Wiki leaks has already been outed as putin's info launderer.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/t...aks-is-a-russian-tool

Get your head out of your ass, fishy.

Russia owns your tangerine dream. He's being blackmailed and he's completely compromised.

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 06/26/2017 04:50 AM
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Originally posted by: RegularJoe Two wrongs don't make a right,

Two wrongs don't make a right but all wrongs are not created equal.

On top of that, I'd love to see the communications among the Republican party insiders during 2016. Funny wikileaks never released any of that. Funny wikileaks and anonymous have been a publishing that anti-Democrat material alongside the anti-vax, anti-gmo, anti-education, pro-variousconspiracytheories... It is all subversive stuff. Then notice FKs subversive language as emblematic of the type of response that they seek. That let's you know who they work for and who are the targeted useful idiots.



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 06/26/2017 05:09 AM
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IT'S COMING! In 72 hours Fox has gone from "Russia is a hoax" to "Collusion is not a crime." Big week ahead?

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 06/26/2017 05:42 AM
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What the DNC did has been done by both parties during primaries since the beginning of time. We saw it with the hood open. The RNC with the hood open would be the same.

The real question is, why was the RNC hood closed?

Duh.

 06/26/2017 05:43 AM
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Originally posted by: WG

IT'S COMING! In 72 hours Fox has gone from "Russia is a hoax" to "Collusion is not a crime." Big week ahead?


Sorry idiot....the attempted Russian collusion crap hasn't been a crime since I POSTED it over a month ago....

My post was from Fox News.

Collusion with Russians OR any other country isn't a crime.

If your MORONIC brain thinks it is...site the LAW!!!!

MORON!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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 06/26/2017 05:55 AM
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My god you have lost it. Please let the Russians know colluding with them is no longer treason so they don't have to hide it anymore. Traitor.

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