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Topic Summary: Real insight for a change...maybe.
Created On: 06/21/2017 07:15 PM
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 06/22/2017 12:16 PM
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tpapablo

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Y'all are employing exactly the tactics that I would want to see. I have made that clear. That isn't going to stop me from offering my insights here, however. As you point out, no prog is going to act rationally. Well, some Congressional dems have been for some time. Their butts are on the line so they have a strong incentive to act rationally.



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 06/22/2017 12:18 PM
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You want to pretend that this is all just normal partisan politics, but that won't wash.

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 06/22/2017 12:26 PM
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tpapablo

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Originally posted by: WG You want to pretend that this is all just normal partisan politics, but that won't wash.

That is really besides the point. Everyone thinks it is and that is hurting the dems.



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 06/22/2017 12:58 PM
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You are sure of yourself; that I give you. Not a bad trait in moderation.

Whether what I think is right aligns with you or doesn't is irrelevant to me.

We gotta do what's in us no matter the outcome.

You too.



Edited: 06/22/2017 at 01:05 PM by SuperTeeBird
 06/22/2017 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by: tpapablo

But, their policies won't get them much further. Don't think they will pick up many votes with their "we will let in more terrorists to kill you" type of policies.



That's funny I don't care who you are LOL!

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 06/22/2017 01:16 PM
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SuperTeeBird

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Back on topic, I wonder where these two paradigms come from.

My guess would be warrior/territorial culture vs. uh...maybe pre-conflict hunter-gatherer?

 06/22/2017 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by: stokedpanda

Originally posted by: tpapablo



But, their policies won't get them much further. Don't think they will pick up many votes with their "we will let in more terrorists to kill you" type of policies.




That's funny I don't care who you are LOL!


If I were planning Dem strategy I'd point out that the refugees fleeing Syria are mostly women and children (at least those are the ones we should take), and I'd remind the citizens that as Americans we are the kind of people who will take a personal risk to save the helpless, and I'd put faces on the suffering.

And the first R to talk back I'd label them a coward like they deserve. These are the kind of people who would let an injured person die on their doorstep; too afraid to open the door. Americans I know would arm themselves and head out.

Who do you want to be? A hero or a pussy? What would your Jesus do?

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 06/22/2017 04:11 PM
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Jesus wouldn't do anything because the man has been dead a long time and dead people don't do shit.

As far as Syrian refugees go, once every American citizen is taken care of, then we can worry about others.
 06/22/2017 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by: miker

Jesus wouldn't do anything because the man has been dead a long time and dead people don't do shit.



As far as Syrian refugees go, once every American citizen is taken care of, then we can worry about others.


In my America we do our best to help everyone we can. And no proud patriot turns his back on suffering children for sake of an artificial line on a map. Even you are better than this, and I challenge you to live up to your responsibility.

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 06/22/2017 06:50 PM
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My responsibility is to the citizens of this country. I don't owe anyone else anything. We have people in this country starving. We have people in this country that are homeless. Give them food and give the shelter ...then you can ask for help for others.
 06/23/2017 06:34 AM
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RustyTruck

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I feel bad for anyone who is so tribal that would turn their back on women and children fleeing war because the came from another land.

We were all strangers here once.


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 06/23/2017 07:10 AM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck
Originally posted by: stokedpanda
Originally posted by: tpapablo But, their policies won't get them much further. Don't think they will pick up many votes with their "we will let in more terrorists to kill you" type of policies.
That's funny I don't care who you are LOL!
If I were planning Dem strategy I'd point out that the refugees fleeing Syria are mostly women and children (at least those are the ones we should take), and I'd remind the citizens that as Americans we are the kind of people who will take a personal risk to save the helpless, and I'd put faces on the suffering. And the first R to talk back I'd label them a coward like they deserve. These are the kind of people who would let an injured person die on their doorstep; too afraid to open the door. Americans I know would arm themselves and head out. Who do you want to be? A hero or a pussy? What would your Jesus do?

That's exactly what I said - you guys want to bring terrorists to our shore. I encourage you to make that case early, often and loudly. Whether we are pussies or not, regardless of what Jesus would do, the average American sees that as utterly stupid and are going to vote against those who hold that position. Don't believe me? Look up the name of our current president.



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 06/23/2017 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

I feel bad for anyone who is so tribal that would turn their back on women and children fleeing war because the came from another land.



We were all strangers here once.


If you are so worried about them, maybe you should send them all of your money and provide them a place to live. Better yet, go fight for them so they can keep their own homes.

That will actually do something useful for them. You criticizing other people for wanting to put our own citizens first does nothing for those poor souls in Syria you profess to care about. Put up or shut the fuck up.


 06/23/2017 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: WG Russia gate ain't about politics at all It's only about treason




Right. No politics at all. Hope your side of the prog divide prevails and y'all keep at it. We need a supermajority in the Senate.



You wanted the truth behind Benghazi, no?

Trump is a lucky snake-oil salesmen. The last six months have shown us that he is many things, but smart isn't one of them.

He won't bring back coal jobs, he's clueless in global affairs and he is quickly realizing government isn't business. The stunt of claiming he had tapes of Comey might work in the boardroom, but unfortunately for Trump, the FBI and other services aren't yes men looking for favor or higher paychecks. Trump is a tiny fish in an ocean, he will continue to flounder because he hasn't a fcking clue.



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 06/24/2017 11:30 AM
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SuperTeeBird

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Here's a more traditional analysis.

But I still think the professor is right.

 06/25/2017 05:39 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: WG
head in sand won't work when the indictment and subpoenas start flying
my sources are not progs nor democrats
just patriots


You don't have any 'sources'.

Liar!

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 06/25/2017 05:44 AM
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Originally posted by: miker

Jesus wouldn't do anything because the man has been dead a long time and dead people don't do shit.


2.18 Billion people disagree with you!

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 06/25/2017 07:59 AM
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WG

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They could be your sources too if you were inclined to hear reality.

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