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Dora Hates You

I can't help but to think this will eventually go as wrong as citizens united.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

I think it's a good judgment. We shouldn't try to legislate common sense, ethics, and morality.

We have to live it, teach it, and refuse to reward those who dismiss it.

We won't make good people by outlawing assholes. We'll just get criminal assholes.

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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

Explain yourself. How is upholding the 1st amendment going to go wrong? It is the cornerstone of freedom in our society.

Besides who determines what is offensive or not? A radical right wing Christian conservative? A fringe left liberal snowflake that finds your gender assumption to be offensive because you referred to him as "him"?

No... fuck no. Just no.

All speech is legal.
Offensive speech is legal.

But may also be called out by the offended.
And reconsidered by the offender.
That's how we learn to get along.

But this was about trademarks, which are promises from the government to protect your right to a symbol.
If government grants the promises, why can't they set the rules?

Because they did it stupidly, like this?
The Slants?
People get to own the shit we throw at them and throw it back if they want.
No reasonable person who pays more than a minutes attention would see this name as offensive in the context.

If my band name is a string of profanities, does the government still need to protect my use of it?
I guess the Washington football team gets to keep their racist name now too.

I need to go read it.



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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 06/20/2017 at 05:42 AM by WG

I agree with the court that the trademark office shouldn't get to restrict speech by picking and choosing what is trademarkable as a trade name because it finds an attempt at branding to be offensive. If someone picks an offensive brand it will sell or it won't.

However, I don't think a common phrase, racial epithet or otherwise, should be something that could be granted any sort of protection as intellectual property without there being some sort of real creativity behind it. Then the subjectivity of the office overseeing such things again comes into play.

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Well said, RT.

Speaking of jackasses, Gene Simmons wants to trade mark the devil horns. Not to mention he doesn't even do it correctly; he's signing that he loves you.

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Not according to our founders. Our liberties come from God, not gov't. "... they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

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I :heart; Q

What does that have to do with trademark laws?
Why does god need government help to enforce them?

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Bill of Rights is not in the Declaration of Independence.

God didn't write the Bill of Rights.

Some men did and they tacked it onto the end of the Constitution after the fact.

Clearly though, the Bill of Rights supercedes any government body's desire to regulate behavor through selective licensing.

Somebody should send that memo to Kim Davis and her supporters.

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"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed ...."

You need to read the two in conjuntion. The founders asserted, and accurately so, that our liberties spring from God. The Bill of Rights is a statement of some of those liberties.

That is one of the big disagreements between progs and normal people. We believe, as did the founders, that our rights come from God. Progs, on the other hand, believe they come from gov't. That is the point WG makes. The founders and I disagree.

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I :heart; Q

Our rights come from the social contract we have made here.

And are teetering on breaking.

I agree with you, Rusty.

I also think that we, as a capitalist society, have the ability to spend our money where we deem necessary, and NOT spend our money on things we do not agree with; whether it be the Redskins, the Slants, or anything else.

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Let's face it, this was easy for pretty much everyone to say they stood for free speech here. We have an Asian band fighting for the right to call their band a slur towards Asian people. Nobody is going to give two shits if a bunch of hillbillies want to call themselves The Crackers or The Honkies.

Where the rubber would have met the road and where people would have been forced to put their money where their mouth is would have been if this group wanting to call themselves The Slants was a group of white kids, who dressed up in WWII uniforms to play their shows.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Not only a name from sniper's post, but a great band.

"Progs on the other hand, believe they come from gov't. That is the point WG makes."

No it is not. No we do not.

The point I make that this case about the government insertion of it's authority into commercial speech via copyright law.
A copyright is a government intrusion upon the free speech of others.
The government promises you help in keeping other people from issuing speech that you have claimed as solely yours.
They help you silence others.

Because men understood how such government restriction on free speech promote commerce and those men wrote these laws.
Not god



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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

There's a bipartisan tendency to try and outlaw things you don't like. Guns, abortion, offensive speech, pornography, prejudice, marijuana; it comes from both sides.

As a liberal, I prefer we lean toward the side of liberty, and cast dollar votes for the things we support and turn our backs on the ones we don't.


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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

You people only play the god card when it suits you. Otherwise you wouldn't live like Trump.

Been that way forever. Read the Texas declaration of secession for historical play of the god card but good god fearing southern conservatives.

The Bill of Rights is a social contract of the people by the people and for the people.

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