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 05/24/2017 06:47 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: WG

It already is happening


What crack are you smoking?

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tpapablo

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy What is it called when you get help from a foreign government to conduct a smear campaign against your opponent and you promise them that in return, you will reward them by removing the sanctions against them. You pick a fight with Australia but you beg America to give putin a chance. You send your people to speak with Kislyak and publicly thank putin for not retaliating for Obamas expulsion of his spies and proclaim publicly that the election was rigged but you don't care if you win.

It's called politics. So far as I know, there is nothing at all illegal about that. But, all that is irrelevent, since it didn't happen.

Ah, the Russian Fools, bring joy to me yet another day. Life is good.



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 05/24/2017 06:53 AM
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RustyTruck

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The Russian fools are in the white house. For now.

Soon enough maybe the jail house.

At least the outhouse.

And you guys will have to know deep down in your tiny black hearts that you were accessories to treason.

Your grandchildren will ask how could you have been fooled so easily.



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 05/24/2017 06:55 AM
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johnnyboy

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It must be working because you are getting increasingly more absurd and desperate. How many times can you post that you still don't see anything while you play three monkeys?

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 05/24/2017 09:46 AM
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Sniper

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy What is it called when you get help from a foreign government to conduct a smear campaign against your opponent and you promise them that in return, you will reward them by removing the sanctions against them. You pick a fight with Australia but you beg America to give putin a chance. You send your people to speak with Kislyak and publicly thank putin for not retaliating for Obamas expulsion of his spies and proclaim publicly that the election was rigged but you don't care if you win.


Obama knows how all this works! He spent $350,000 taxpayer dollars trying to influence Israeli elections against Netanyahu. He sent community organizers to Israel specifically to defeat an ally of the United States.

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 05/24/2017 09:53 AM
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WG

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So which is it?
It didn't happen,
or we do it too?

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 05/24/2017 10:31 AM
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RegularJoe

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You know damn well we do it too! Not just in Russia and Israel either. And, of course, when we can't influence an election outcome, we'll help with a regime change.

Now back to the subject of treason...

Brennan: "Leakers who revealed Israel as intelligence source did far more damage than Trump" link

"Britain expressed irritation on Wednesday at leaks in the United States of details about a suicide bomber who killed 22 people at a packed pop concert, saying disclosures of that kind could hinder such investigations." link
 05/24/2017 10:36 AM
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WG

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Of course we do. Which is why the "it didn't happen" argument is silly.
And it often backfires on us, makes a worse mess.
But we aren't Russia

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 05/24/2017 10:36 AM
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WG

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"Western civilization now has an even clearer situation in front of it. Russia doesn't look like a potential friendly partner, as it might have in the early 2000s. It is not offering to cooperate on nuclear arms reduction treaties, which Obama wanted as for his legacy. Currently, the Russian Federation is an evil pseudo-empire. It occupies territories in three neighboring countries, in Syria it sponsors one of the bloodiest tyrants in decades, and Moscow has turned itself into a factory disseminating disinformation on daily basis. Outside of ISIS and North Korea, you won't find an entity that causes more unrest to international security and basic principles of human civilization."

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malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill
 05/24/2017 10:52 AM
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WG

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Even though it comes from the despicable Trumpist apologist Theissen, so I didn't read it all, your first link title does make a point, although identification of Israel as the source was a few days after, so maybe the damage control after Trumps big mistake was able to save the agents life. The second was readable and also points to a lack of trust ability somewhere. The press should still always try and get to the truth though.

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ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill
 05/24/2017 11:19 AM
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RegularJoe

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The quotes from Brennan are presumably available via multiple sources, but to condense it for you:

the assessment of John Brennan, Barack Obama's CIA director, who said last week that "the real damage to national security is . . . what was leaked in the aftermath, what was put in the media" adding that "these individuals who still stay within the government and are leaking this stuff to the press need to be brought to task."

 05/24/2017 11:26 AM
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WG

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Yes, I got that far, and accept his judgement.
Whoever leaked this detail may have caused real harm, but not necessarily more than the President did with his initial brag.

I don't think that leaking evidence of crimes is the same though, and don't generally see "the leakers" as the problem WRT the Trump teams treason.

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malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill
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