Please. please do this, Ca.

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/californias-road-to-single-payer-ruin/

After the inevitable disaster, we can take single payer health care off the table for decades. Only progs are stupid enough to still be calling for it. But, by then, everyone will understand that progs only create failures.

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LMAO, yes, the sky is falling, all non-socialists should immediately flee California!

They are going to seize the means of production!

If California had a healthcare system similar to the rest of the developed world the dead would rise from the grave!



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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

I am California's biggest supporter in this goal. And, I will tell you something else, if it succeeds, I will change my tune. If it doesn't, the rest of us can learn the lesson without the pain.

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I :heart; Q

You do know that some of those crazy alt right types like the single payer system?

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

I am sure there are some. We don't have ideological purity tests on our side

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I :heart; Q

The only way California could make this work would be to create a state wide risk pool and require participation.

And it can't be a matter of just coverage for illness, they would have to go beyond and make California a wellness community.

They would need to collectively reduce dietary sugar and animal fats/proteins, increase physical activity, vaccinate, identify and treat disease early.

Kaiser is pretty advanced, maybe they could work a deal with them to administer a state wide wellness program.

No tobacco, moderate alcohol, meat no more than 2x/week, and get your ass outside. At least there are lots of reasons to go outside in CA.



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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

Previous efforts in Colorado and Vermont:
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create a state wide risk pool and require participation.

They would need to collectively reduce dietary sugar and animal fats/proteins and require participation. 

increase physical activity and require participation.

identify and treat disease early and require participation.

Kaiser is pretty advanced, maybe they could work a deal with them to administer a state wide wellness program and require participation.   

No tobacco and require participation. 

moderate alcohol and require participation.

meat no more than 2x/weekand require participation. 

and get your ass outside and require participation. 

 

 

vaccinate and require participation?

Why is it that Liberal programs don't work without Government overreach and draconian reductions in personal freedoms?

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Ha! Sounds like a prison, doesn't it?

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Think of it, and I know this is hard for you guys, it goes against your world view, but think of it as "personal responsibility".

If we as a society (and I know you're not ready for this) decide that our values dictate that everyone should have access to health and wellness care, and we're all going to pitch in to pay for it, we may need to set some limits.

Do you have any idea how much it costs to treat type 2 diabetes in the USA? Do you know that inactivity and poor diet are major contributors to the prevalence of the disease? Sure you do.

That Super Big Gulf of sugar water down at 7-11 is costing us money, and it's in society's interest to discourage or prohibit it.

Freedom has limits.


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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

How does alcohol and diabetes work together?

Sounds fantastic. Maybe they could grind the meat and make some kind of delicious gruel with it. They could get us together in a big gruel-room to serve it to us with all of our friends and neighbors. Everyone will really look forward to our two alloted meat-days.



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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Soylent green a prog lullaby

"Personal Responsibility" is a personal choice.

Sorry, but suck-it-up, I choose Bat Shit Crazy!!!!, , , , ,!!!!

California's coming "Living Wage":


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Dora Hates You

Sounds robotic to me. You just follow the ideology? Very sad....

Just as I am a huge supporter of the new Trumpcare bill. Trump has a republican congress and SCOTUS, so the thing must pass, shouldn't it?

Come on republican folks, get together and pass the thing already. Less care, higher costs, pricing preexisting conditions out of the market, giant cuts to Medicaid... sounds perfect!

Though truthfully, I'm not sure what's better, total dysfunction in the federal government or totally fcking people over with healthcare? Huh, decisions. Oh well, I reckon either one is the perfect path to the elections in 2018.


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I was right.

Personal responsibility is paying for your own healthcare, and not relying on others to do it. What you would like to see is a dictatorship that will try (and fail) to make people do what they don't want to do so and thereby relieve them of any personal responsibility. You commies are trying Newspeak again, eh? Slavery is freedom.

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Oh yes, the entire developed world is throttled under the oppressive yoke of national healthcare.

You'll pay for others care whether you like it or not, so you might as well help come up with an efficient system.



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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

"Personal responsibility is paying for your own healthcare,"  and it's corollary

"Personal responsibility is paying for your own retirement"

does that follow?

 

The poor and middle class get lectured on personal responsibility while the elites package tax breaks for the rich. Trump is a real populist for the people allright. His plan is to cut revenues with the fantasy that those cuts will grow the economy five percent. He doesn't know how or when this will happen, and when its pointed out that even if the rich would grow the economy by spending their wealth instead of further concentrating it like they have for the past decade on those tax breaks, he asks you to trust him because he knows. The same clown that exposed his naivete on healthcare, China, North Korea, Russia, Dodd Frank, National Parks, and his daughter's clothing line wants you to beleive that its not his ignorance on this issue that will help Trump change it for the better, its his character. Right. His character. You know, the same character that will not acknowledge his words when he's caught contradicting them and always attacks the messenger when confronted with his lies.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.