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Topic Title: We will use diplomacy with China
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Created On: 04/28/2017 05:04 AM
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 04/28/2017 05:04 AM
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Cole

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Hours later: There could be major, major conflict with North Korea.

Trump is a GD train wreck.

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 04/28/2017 05:58 AM
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RustyTruck

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I really feel bad for anyone who has family deployed or otherwise living on the Korea peninsula.

Americans have forgotten the cost of hubris.




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 04/28/2017 06:16 AM
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StirfryMcflurry

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le sigh

 04/28/2017 06:25 AM
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Cole

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This isn't a business. This is world markets. This is global security.

It's time to be a politician. It's time to be president.

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 04/28/2017 07:23 AM
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johnnyboy

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And here we have the effective limits of going for the crazy unpredictable persona to keep your friends and frenemies guessing. The guess is supposed to be that our frenemies assume the worst case scenario and then actively avoid that with their own efforts. In our case, they don't have any clear message to guess from and after one palm beach visit and a ten minute Chinese history of North Korea, trump painfully and publicly learned that forcing china to remove Kim Jong Un was not as easy as conventional politics led him to believe. Now he is sending so many mixed messages to china and even North Korea that instead of coming off as unpredictable and dangerous, he presents himself an confused and ignorant.

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 04/28/2017 08:09 AM
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worksuxgetsponsered

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china threatens N Korea

Or maybe the chocolate cake was so good Pres Xi decided to work with Trump? after all it is in everybody's best interest.

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 04/28/2017 08:21 AM
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Greensleeves

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Wait it's not just major? It's major major?

 04/28/2017 08:23 AM
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tpapablo

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If we are going to war with N. Korea, best to do it now. Clinton/Bush/PiC set this up, but we can't ignore them any further.



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 04/28/2017 10:33 AM
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somebodyelse

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Americans have forgotten the cost of hubris.

 

 

The last 8 years have been hubris diplomacy.

Do it Obamas way or get to the back of the bus.

don't cross the red line or there will be consequences.

Russia better not invade here the Chinese better not encroach there...

Hubris diplomacy was what we have been experiencing for 8 years and you give a President of a hundred days the label your guy has been wearing on his forehead his whole life???



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 04/28/2017 11:16 AM
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RustyTruck

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Huh?

I'd say the last 8 years turned out just fine. In 100 days your boy has taken us to the edge of war.

Good luck, hope that works out for ya.

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