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Topic Title: Values test for Citizenship Topic Summary: Created On: 04/20/2017 07:14 AM |
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04/20/2017 07:14 AM
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/wo...t-citizenship-n748751
The concept makes sense, but do not believe for an instance that it would ever work here. |
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04/20/2017 07:40 AM
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I think a language test would be a bad idea (for us)
America doesn't/shouldn't have a national language. ------------------------- "The truth is incontrovertible. malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill |
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04/20/2017 07:44 AM
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I will have to disagree with you on that. English is without a doubt out language and it should be a requirement for citizenship. It is part of adopting our culture, integrating into our society, and communicating. When you migrate to a country, you should learn the language of the land, not demand that the society learn to speak yours.
Of course 30 years from now, Spanish will most likely be the predominate language in our country. Not that this is a bad thing, I know enough buy beer and find a bathroom. You know, the important things..... |
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04/20/2017 07:50 AM
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Yes, it should. That's part of what makes a country a country. But, progs don't want countries do they? ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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04/20/2017 07:55 AM
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We don't have a national language because one was never agreed upon. We have a de facto national language, but that can change. Furthermore, our lack of language skills here is pathetic. |
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04/20/2017 08:04 AM
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A single common language is not a requirement to be a country.
Like Canada, we are a multicultural nation. While the majority speak English, a significant part of our cultural heritage is Spanish speaking. That is a strength, not a weakness. Of course speaking English helps one get ahead in America, which is why almost all immigrant strive to learn it, and all of their children do. It's just not a problem. We don't need that roadblock. We don't need laws telling people how to speak. ------------------------- "The truth is incontrovertible. malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill |
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04/20/2017 08:07 AM
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Since October 2012, CIC (now IRCC) has mandated that all applicants for Canadian citizenship provide proof that they are able to speak either English or French with enough fluency that they can function in Canadian society. As proof, you have to provide one of the following from an English or French speaking country or school, including Canada:
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04/20/2017 08:17 AM
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This kind of stuff is merely political; not practical. Just another form of nationalism. |
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04/20/2017 08:18 AM
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A single common language is not a requirement to be a country.
Don't the French speakers try to seceed from Canada every couple years? They want their own country to be separate from the English speakers. Do we now divide up America into Spanish countries and English countries and of course new england who kind of speak English and maybe South Carolina and Georgia who also have their own language... ------------------------- |
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04/20/2017 08:19 AM
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Always good for a laugh. |
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04/20/2017 08:23 AM
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How about a civics and values exam required for voter registration?
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04/20/2017 08:32 AM
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Well it *was* practical when this country was vastly more english speaking than any other language and before we made concessions for others. It is not so practical now given that large percentage of people that speak Spanish. So yea, it is a fair argument to say it is more political now.
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04/20/2017 08:38 AM
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How about a civics and values exam required for voter registration? Which values would you exclude? ------------------------- "The truth is incontrovertible. malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill |
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04/20/2017 08:39 AM
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My own opinion is there should be a requirement to learn English within a certain period of living here.
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04/20/2017 08:46 AM
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Rhetorical, mostly
Values tests probably only exclude the illiterate and the honest. |
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04/20/2017 08:47 AM
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The values are, do you want to live here?, do you want to work here?, do you want to raise your family here?, do you want to retire here and live out your life here?, do you support the constitution?, welcome!
------------------------- Ah, religion, bigotry dressed up as morality. |
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04/20/2017 08:48 AM
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I'd go for that. BTW - Naturalized citizens do have to demonstrate ability to speak, write and read english. They also seem to have a much better grasp of basic civics than many (most?) natural born citizens. Lastly, I don't think that everything Australia does is awesome (but love the Aussies). How about their stance on firearm ownership? Should we embrace that, too? ------------------------- If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV |
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04/20/2017 08:48 AM
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My own opinion is there should be a requirement to learn English within a certain period of living here. While there already is a de facto economic requirement, I see no value in the government dictating culture. ------------------------- "The truth is incontrovertible. malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill |
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04/20/2017 08:53 AM
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I'd go for that.
BTW - Naturalized citizens do have to demonstrate ability to speak, write and read english. They also seem to have a much better grasp of basic civics than many (most?) natural born citizens.
Lastly, I don't think that everything Australia does is awesome (but love the Aussies). How about their stance on firearm ownership? Should we embrace that, too?
Naturalized citizens also take an oath to support the Constitution. That is the only requirement to be an American. Also a requirement that many people born here ignore. |
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04/20/2017 08:54 AM
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