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WG

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"This executive order is designed to do two key things: first, to undo the Obama administration's significant achievements in climate policy - appealing to the minority of Americans who share President Trump's view that climate change is a "hoax" and agree with his budget chief's pronouncement that it is a "waste of your money." And second, to prop up the oil, gas, and coal industries at the expense of not only climate change mitigation but also clean air, water, and land, and wildlife and natural resources.

Some of the highlights from the order include:

. Revoking several Obama executive orders and memos related to his signature climate action plan

. Instructing all agencies to initiate the process of identifying and rescinding any rules or policies implementing the climate action plan

. Instructing the Environmental Protection Agency to begin the process of unraveling the Clean Power Plan, which set standards for reducing carbon dioxide emissions from power plants

. Instructing the Department of Interior to begin the process of unraveling commonsense rules for oil and gas extraction on federal land, including national parks

. Lifting a moratorium on new coal leasing on federal lands (existing leases were not affected) while the government assessed environmental and economic issues associated with the leasing program

Notably missing from the order is any mention of the United States' commitment under the Paris climate agreement to reduce emissions by 26 to 28 percent below 2005 levels by 2025. But there's no doubt that Trump's insistent denial of climate change will make it much harder to keep our commitment, and represents a major setback for keeping global temperatures away from a catastrophic tipping point.

Also missing from the order is any connection to job creation, beyond the rhetorical. Well before the Obama climate action plan, market forces had already dealt a serious blow to coal's economic prospects. Natural gas's low prices enabled it to become a direct competitor of coal in the electric sector, and the two now directly compete. To the extent that Trump's executive order eases regulation on the extraction of natural gas, he has only pressed these market forces harder against coal.

It is well within the executive power to depart from prior administrations' policy preferences. But in implementing those policy changes, agencies must provide reasonable explanations for the changes that are consistent with their "enabling statutes" and missions. Climate change presents a particularly sticky problem in this regard, because it is backed by an overwhelming scientific consensus. Expect this executive order to be a rallying cry for the upcoming Earth Day and March for Science protests, and count on numerous legal challenges."
Emily Hammond

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 03/30/2017 04:49 AM
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. Instructing the Department of Interior to begin the process of unraveling commonsense rules for oil and gas extraction on federal land, including national parks


That's refreshing.

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 03/30/2017 05:32 AM
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Yep...looks like Trump is getting the hang of this 'presidency' thing pretty quickly!

Wait till he REALLY figures it out!

You scum prog POS libs are done!

Trump will damage and remove your 'agenda' so that it will NEVER be able to come back!

You pissed off the wrong person.


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Why is his MO solely to undo what has been done, cant the wise carrot come up with any ideas of his own!?

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An Indonesian man, who had not been seen since the weekend, was found inside a 23ft (7m)-long python!

 03/30/2017 05:43 AM
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Originally posted by: stokedpanda

Why is his MO solely to undo what has been done, cant the wise carrot come up with any ideas of his own!?


He's only been in office 69 days!

Give him another month or two....he's busy fixing the shit Obama screwed up.

You will find that a 70 year old man with billions of dollars has a very large imagination on what he wants and how he wants to get it!

He's had 70 years to figure out just how bad he wants to mess with you.

I am positive he will deliver as that seems to be his goal right from the start.

I'm also sure that you mostly aren't going to like it.




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Such a nasty woman.

 03/30/2017 06:11 AM
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Guppy slayer is the typical Trump loving commie.  That rug wearing a-hole could go to his trailer and turn it over and he'd still come up googly eyed in wonder.  Probably want his and Putin's autograph in return.

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His popularity is in the toilet, his party in disarray.
His rollbacks of Obamas common sense won't survive, but they will cost the planet time we can't afford.

His first couple of month have been a dismal failure and you know it FK.



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 03/30/2017 06:25 AM
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His first couple of month have been a dismal failure and you know it FK.

 

 

Yes, yes, granted... a failure...

BUT... IT ISN"T HILLARY>>> hahaha   SO we win... .   we... win...



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 03/30/2017 06:37 AM
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The only winners so far are the Russians.

I wonder why they feared Hillary even more than you do?


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 03/30/2017 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by: stokedpanda Why is his MO solely to undo what has been done, cant the wise carrot come up with any ideas of his own!?

Because what was done over the past 8 years was destructive to our country. Why did we undo Nazi Germany? Moreover, the people elected Trump for the express purpose of undoing all the harmful things that the PiC did. So, he is merely acting on his campaign promises.



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LOL at FishKommy celebrating raping the planet for corporate profit.

You should be ashamed to call yourself a "fisherman".. and certainly a Christian. You depend on Gods creation, yet you applaud its destruction.

You sir, are truly the fool and your day will come. Go ahead and write your long winded rambling grammatical error of a reply post- it doesnt matter- you are still supporting screwing up the environment which makes you an incredible hypocrite sucker.


..as for somebodyelse, hes got such a fear boner for Hillary, he obviously spanks it to her.

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Putie is so proud of his comrade!

The noose is tightening..................................
 03/30/2017 06:53 AM
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Originally posted by: WG

His popularity is in the toilet, his party in disarray.

His rollbacks of Obamas common sense won't survive, but they will cost the planet time we can't afford.



His first couple of month have been a dismal failure and you know it FK.


True, but the other major party is in worse shape.



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 03/30/2017 06:58 AM
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The nasty hypocrite FK applauds the destruction of the environment? How surprising!

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 03/30/2017 07:07 AM
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Originally posted by: daner
Originally posted by: WG His popularity is in the toilet, his party in disarray. His rollbacks of Obamas common sense won't survive, but they will cost the planet time we can't afford. His first couple of month have been a dismal failure and you know it FK.
True, but the other major party is in worse shape.

I feel all this ruminating about the poor dems is all wrong. They just need to incorporate the Bernie faction a bit better and fix gerrymandering (Obama is on the job right now). Then wait for Trump to self-incarcerate. That's really how I see it; Trump is the shortest path to Bernie land.  Hillary would have stifled change.

Only other comment is there are a couple of shockingly immature adults on this thread (not you at all Dane, the people with outrageous posts).

 03/30/2017 07:15 AM
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I agree that the Democratic party is a mess, it does certainly need to fix a lot of things.
We failed badly enough to allow a clueless and incompetent sociopathic lying sack of shit become the #2 leader of the free world (Merkel will have to step up to what Donald is abdicating).

And it's gonna take a while because to work, to last, it has to come up from the bottom, from the state and local level.
I'm encouraged by what I'm seeing so far in Central FL.

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 03/30/2017 07:46 AM
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The only winners so far are the Russians.

I wonder why they feared Hillary even more than you do?

 

 

Do you remember that there was a time when the Russians were our allys?

We became allys because we had a common enemy, the NAZIs.

This is a similar situation. Our values and the Russians values are both being attacked by the liberals, we find that they are an ally in a time of war.

The Liberal Agenda is to supplant American values and American authority with a generic World wide Village. Our American independance is being attacked and our laws are being altered to include other countries who do NOT share our rights and our values.

Russia also hates the Liberal agenda that regulates Russia to third world status and that dictates to Russia what they are allowed to do in their own lands. The Liberals embracing the muslim world is a prime example of them trying to supplant American values with a different value system. Russia, Also does NOT embrace the muslim world views and so they are our allys.

we have 2 commom enemys, the Muslims and the Liberals both of whom are trying to tear down American values and supplant them with Muslim values or in the case of Liberals with anything other than Traditional American values.

Russia has the same enemies, Muslims on their borders and in several of their former states, and Liberals trying to impose global values on an Independant coutry that doesn't want Liberal ideologies that tear down their society.

 

 



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Always better when stuff like the post above is made explicit.

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