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tpapablo

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Well, this is good.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-energy-idUSKBN16Z1L6



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 03/28/2017 03:28 PM
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WG

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Yep.
The worst thing Trump's done.
Won't create any more jobs (except for lawyers).
Will kill millions and cost trillions.

Our grandchildren are gonna be pissed.

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 03/28/2017 04:29 PM
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theglide

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There goes the fly fishing in the Adirondacks.
 03/28/2017 07:19 PM
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Cole

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China will assume the lead role in CO2 reduction, as well as industry and the US will be reduced to the sidelines for the Trump years.



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 03/28/2017 07:45 PM
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johnnyboy

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The courage and vision to bring back coal. It's like fighting for candles in the age of led. Coal is not coming back for many good reasons, mostly economic. The dismantling of the environmental protections just puts the US as the short sighted campaign promise keepers that think leadership means nostalgia for the past and legislation to revive it.

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 03/28/2017 07:55 PM
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... Talk about kicking a man while he's down: this gives false hope to miners.



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luddites

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 03/29/2017 04:57 AM
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Cole

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Natural gas has replaced coal.

Is trump really this stupid?

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 03/29/2017 05:01 AM
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He's not creating any more jobs since the mining is done mechanically. Trumpf still thinks miners still go in wiyh picks and shovels.
 03/29/2017 05:09 AM
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Cole

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Tax the gas industry?

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Originally posted by: Cole

Tax the gas industry?


Churches?

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WG

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Originally posted by: Cole

Natural gas has replaced coal.



Is trump really this stupid?


yes

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 03/29/2017 05:47 AM
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scombrid

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Originally posted by: SlimyBritches He's not creating any more jobs since the mining is done mechanically. Trumpf still thinks miners still go in wiyh picks and shovels.

Maybe he should ban mechanization.

Mining jobs peaked around the early 20th century. Maybe we should return to those days.



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 03/29/2017 05:56 AM
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Cole

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A robot tax wouldn't be surprising.

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 03/29/2017 07:07 AM
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tpapablo

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The above comments provide a good summary of why you progs got your butts kicked in recent elections. You think you can play god with the lives of others. Now, sure, coal wont be back like it was 100 years ago. But there is a need for it now. So, why not let these guys work?

Anyway, we are going to do this. And if progs die because of it, all the better.



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 03/29/2017 08:11 AM
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theglide

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The courage and vision to bring back coal.


The courage and vision to bring back the Ford Model "T" (Tin Lizzie).

The courage and vision to bring back the rotary phone.

The courage and vision to bring back a feather and leather golf ball.

The courage and vision to bring back the leather football helmet without face mask.

The courage and vision to bring back TV top rabbit ear antennas.....
 03/29/2017 08:14 AM
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johnnyboy

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Now sure model a's, rotary phones, primitive golf balls etc are on their way out but they have a place and if we force people to use them then we create jobs. You know, government sponsored capitalism.

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 03/29/2017 08:24 AM
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WG

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Originally posted by: tpapablo
Now, sure, coal wont be back like it was 100 years ago. But there is a need for it now. So, why not let these guys work?



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No, there is NOT a need for it now. It's obsolete expensive and dirty. Most of the guys are not going back to work even with this and you know the why.


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 03/29/2017 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by: theglide
The courage and vision to bring back coal.
... The courage and vision to bring back the rotary phone. .....

 

Thay have an app for that.  Works great!



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 03/29/2017 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by: tpapablo So, why not let these guys work?

 

 

 

How many worked in coal in 1950?

How many worked in coal in 1970, 1990, 2010? Now?

What happened to all those jobs in the decades before Obama?

How much good exactly is allowing the faceless mining companies with their absentee owners to externalize all their pollution costs going to do for the average worker?

This move is not a help to the worker. It is a gift to the big fat cats that have been stomping on Appalachia since the days of the Baldwin Felts goons.



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