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Fish Killer

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Identical Twin Studies Show the Only Gay Genes that Exist are Made by Versace
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Eight major studies of identical twins in Australia, the U.S., and Scandinavia during the last two decades all arrive at the same conclusion: gays were not born that way.

"At best genetics is a minor factor," says Dr. Neil Whitehead, PhD. Whitehead worked for the New Zealand government as a scientific researcher for 24 years, then spent four years working for the United Nations and International Atomic Energy Agency. Most recently, he serves as a consultant to Japanese universities about the effects of radiation exposure. His PhD is in biochemistry and statistics.

Identical twins have the same genes or DNA. They are nurtured in equal prenatal conditions. If homosexuality is caused by genetics or prenatal conditions and one twin is gay, the co-twin should also be gay.

"Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%," Dr. Whitehead notes. But the studies reveal something else. "If an identical twin has same-sex attraction the chances the co-twin has it are only about 11% for men and 14% for women."

Because identical twins are always genetically identical, homosexuality cannot be genetically dictated. "No-one is born gay," he notes. "The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors."

Dr. Whitehead believes same-sex attraction (SSA) is caused by "non-shared factors," things happening to one twin but not the other, or a personal response to an event by one of the twins and not the other.

For example, one twin might have exposure to pornography or sexual abuse, but not the other. One twin may interpret and respond to their family or classroom environment differently than the other. "These individual and idiosyncratic responses to random events and to common environmental factors predominate," he says.
The first very large, reliable study of identical twins was conducted in Australia in 1991, followed by a large U.S. study about 1997. Then Australia and the U.S. conducted more twin studies in 2000, followed by several studies in Scandinavia, according to Dr. Whitehead.

"Twin registers are the foundation of modern twin studies. They are now very large, and exist in many countries. A gigantic European twin register with a projected 600,000 members is being organized, but one of the largest in use is in Australia, with more than 25,000 twins on the books."

A significant twin study among adolescents shows an even weaker genetic correlation. In 2002 Bearman and Brueckner studied tens of thousands of adolescent students in the U.S. The same-sex attraction concordance between identical twins was only 7.7% for males and 5.3% for females - lower than the 11% and 14% in the Australian study by Bailey et al conducted in 2000.

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Originally posted by: SuperTeeBird

What's the deal?





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Originally posted by: SuperTeeBird

What's the deal?


The facts:

Identical Twin Studies Show the Only Gay Genes that Exist are Made by Versace.



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Sure; I figured that's where you are coming from.

Just making sure other readers have access to all of the findings.

 02/17/2017 02:31 PM
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Dr. Neil Whitehead was a Chrstianist extremist, but he has been dead for almost 5 years.
Identical twins do not necessarily have identical DNA.

And it is important to note that only 289 of the 3,139 pairs of siblings were actually identical twins in this study.

Not that it matters anyway.


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by the way: thats a lovely fur lined versace thong you're wearing there Swish Killer. you go boy, strut that stuff....

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Fish Killer you are a joke

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Originally posted by: gdudewe

Fish Killer you are a joke


A 'joke' is someone who knows the truth yet continues to preach a lie!

That makes you a total joke!

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The short answer is that science has not found a genetic link, nor has it found any evidence that orientation can be changed.

In fact, it finds other biological correlation with orientation such as brain structure.

It's complicated.

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Originally posted by: SuperTeeBird

The short answer is that science has not found a genetic link, nor has it found any evidence that orientation can be changed.




In fact, it finds other biological correlation with orientation such as brain structure.




It's complicated.



The short answer actually is Identical Twin Studies Show the Only Gay Genes that Exist are Made by Versace.

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Short answers are usually wrong, like this old "news"

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This short answer is spot on...and you are wrong.

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Word is that thong is made of leather and raccoon fur you harvested youself, deep in the dangerous realm of your back yard. With a 10,000 dollar nightscope on your pellet gun! Awwesome dude.
And Mr. Versace himself personally designed and sewed it himself!
The note was a nice touch as well: "From your 'twin brother', Milo..."

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 02/17/2017 04:07 PM
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OK, so if you like getting cornholed, so be it.

But again, on the other hand, , , , one of the basic tenets of the Constitution is that "All men are created equal under God", etc., etc., etc., , , ,

Some years ago an ex-Supreme (?) wrote about this when homosexuality was first being pushed as "born that way" and/or "genetic", or what-ever, and the "not a choice" was being put forward. OK. His idea being that if aberrant behavior like sodomy was accepted because it was claimed to be "genetic", it was a very slippery slope, as other "genetic" behavior would then have to be "OK". Child predation would possibly then have to be "OK" because the condition was found to be genetic. All-things-being-equal, , , , if the child predator was locked up anyway, then so would the homosexual have to be locked away, if sodomy was illegal. It would have to be an "all or none" solution under the Constitution; either genetics made them "that way under God" or it did not.

Something like that.

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 02/17/2017 04:14 PM
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The guys that "cure" gayness are desperately wanting to convince themselves through others and I look at their wives and laugh. The cure is worse than the illness.

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Equating consensual relationships between adults with sexual predation is another oversimplification. Of course, it's merely a way to discount same-sex attraction by conflating it with predation.

I don't care how people that hurt other people are created, they get convicted and remanded.

 02/17/2017 06:46 PM
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Cole

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fat boy, I have no interest in another man's penis, never have, do you?

Have you ever even talked to a gay person?

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Is there a heterosexual gene?



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Well, , , , the judge's writing was not about gay versus straight. The issue of " born that way because of genetics" was the issue. Being that God made us who we are, and if a person was, let's say, gay because of a gene, , , , well, then it is settled. Because we cannot persecute or prosecute a person for being as God made them. We cannot persecute a person for being black, can we? The judge's point was that we DID NOT ever want to go the genetic route to say that a person is "gay" because of a gene. Because, simply put, if it were also found that a person was predisposed to "like" children because of a gene, , , , well you know, we would be unable to prosecute them because of the way God made them.

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Edited: 02/17/2017 at 08:33 PM by dingpatch
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