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Topic Title: How easy it was for the GOP to obstruct
Topic Summary: But they cannot pivot to constructing healthcare
Created On: 01/19/2017 08:22 AM
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 01/19/2017 08:22 AM
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johnnyboy

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So very many years of obstructing, fighting, insulting and playing games. Now they have the house, the senate and the president and still no plan.

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 01/19/2017 08:31 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Their plan is to make a quick buck, regardless of the consequences.
 01/19/2017 08:54 AM
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RegularJoe

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The Dems had been planning something since Hillary took office in 1992, but nothing got passed until 2009.

Ya gotta give it a little time and let the new boss lead a few meetings.
 01/19/2017 09:52 AM
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Republican members of Congress from Miami who have huge numbers of constituents with Obamacare insurance seem eager to repeal it.  I suppose they're in touch.  

 

 01/19/2017 09:59 AM
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Repugs have had 8 years to come up with a replacement for the ACA. Now, they are standing around with their peckers in their hands, like it snuck up on them.

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 01/19/2017 11:14 AM
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This surprise was 7 years in the making. It's not really accurate to portray the complete lack of an alternative plan, an interim plan or even fall back as just getting warmed up to the idea that they have a job to do for at least 20 million people that need real answers in real time. People without healthcare could literally die waiting for the GOP to get warmed up to the reality that they have to construct a better program than the one they destroyed and it has to be more than what was there 8 years ago.

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 01/19/2017 11:42 AM
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obx2

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We'll just have to wait until they pass the Bill the find out whats in it.

 01/19/2017 12:13 PM
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SuperTeeBird

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In the meantime I think the GOP will be between a rock and a hard place on this issue.

"Checkmate" --Obama

 01/19/2017 12:36 PM
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RustyTruck

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The funny part will be the premiums after they vote to repeal with no replacement.

No one remembers that premiums were out of control BEFORE Obamacare.


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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

This surprise was 7 years in the making. It's not really accurate to portray the complete lack of an alternative plan, an interim plan or even fall back as just getting warmed up to the idea that they have a job to do for at least 20 million people that need real answers in real time. People without healthcare could literally die waiting for the GOP to get warmed up to the reality that they have to construct a better program than the one they destroyed and it has to be more than what was there 8 years ago.


Trump said he wont let people die on the street, he may have even promised!

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 01/19/2017 03:25 PM
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tpapablo

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Originally posted by: stokedpanda
Originally posted by: johnnyboy This surprise was 7 years in the making. It's not really accurate to portray the complete lack of an alternative plan, an interim plan or even fall back as just getting warmed up to the idea that they have a job to do for at least 20 million people that need real answers in real time. People without healthcare could literally die waiting for the GOP to get warmed up to the reality that they have to construct a better program than the one they destroyed and it has to be more than what was there 8 years ago.
Trump said he wont let people die on the street, he may have even promised!

If you want to see people dying in the streets, go visit Chicago. Seem progs don't give a damn when brown people are dying. But we all knew that progs are racists. In any case, don't see why we need any replacement at all. But if we must have one, I would much rather see a transparent, well thought out plan that we can all see, digest and weigh in on. Speed of passage isn't exactly the hallmark of good legislation. The other way didn't work well, did it?



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 01/19/2017 05:57 PM
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johnnyboy

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Tpap, try not to get distracted. We are discussing health care.

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