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Topic Title: The right to bear arms...
Topic Summary: for all Americans?
Created On: 12/01/2016 12:25 PM
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 12/01/2016 12:25 PM
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johnnyboy

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Even Muslims who are citizens? I wonder if the 2nd Amendment lobby will fight for all Americans to have guns, even those who identify as Muslims. There is talk of registering Muslims, the legal precedent of internment camps and even oaths. I wonder how all that would play out with a well armed, well regulated militia and their right to the same guns as the feds.

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 12/01/2016 12:28 PM
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Sure. All except those that are forbidden by statute, e.g., convicted felons or progs.



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 12/01/2016 12:31 PM
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RustyTruck

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That was all campaign talk, I don't think any of it will be considered in any serious way.

I predict a significant decline in the gun industry. The boogieman who was driving sales is gone for now.

Next year at this time you'll be able to pour bricks of .22 on the ground and roll around it it.

One thing that might be interesting. With no government voice calling for gun control, and a glut of firearms and little restriction in the middle of the country, I think we will see better armed terrorists and general criminals than ever before. Gonna be a whole lot'a shootin' going on.



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 12/01/2016 12:34 PM
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Cole

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Wonder if no-fly-list people will still be able to buy guns?

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 12/01/2016 12:40 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Sure. All except those that are forbidden by statute, e.g., convicted felons or progs.



Most of the convicted felons ARE progs.

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 12/01/2016 12:45 PM
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I for one hopes this comes into fruition especially as I am going to be traveling the country this upcoming year...

http://concealednation.org/2016/11/can-trump-make-national-reciprocity-for-concealed-carry-a-reality/

 12/01/2016 01:17 PM
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sw

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Originally posted by: surfdrawn

I for one hopes this comes into fruition especially as I am going to be traveling the country this upcoming year...

http://concealednation.org/201...aled-carry-a-reality/


I'm all for states' rights, but I admit it would be glorious to have a single rule nationwide.

The exclusions by state are so many, and can change so quickly (besides the LEOs not always knowing the current law as well as you'd hope), that I usually decide it's too much risk and hassle.
 12/01/2016 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: tpapablo



Sure. All except those that are forbidden by statute, e.g., convicted felons or progs.





Most of the convicted felons ARE progs.


Now that's funny!

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 12/01/2016 01:29 PM
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tom

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Camping over near St. Marks, was talking to a kid (young man) who was riding his motorcycle from Louisana to the Keys.

He was telling us about getting pulled over by "A whole ____LOAD of Cops!" and "I wasn't even speeding... then" (lot of laughs),

because he was open carrying, allowed in LA, and somebody had called him in.

He said he didn't know it was different in FL.

After the "misunderstanding" was resolved, he stored it in his bag.  No ticket. 

 



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 12/01/2016 01:38 PM
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obx2

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As an American Citizen you are guarenteed the right to own a gun as stated in the Constitution.....period

 12/01/2016 01:42 PM
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Cole

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If you are part of a well regulated militia.

According to the Constitution anyway.

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 12/01/2016 01:43 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: Cole

If you are part of a well regulated militia.
According to the Constitution anyway.


Liar!

Do you EVER tell the truth?

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 12/01/2016 01:51 PM
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Cole

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Liar? What I said is in the first four words?

Scalia was your guy and he was a Literalist, so I'm just going by what the document actually says.

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 12/01/2016 02:01 PM
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surfdrawn

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Originally posted by: obx2 As an American Citizen you are guarenteed the right to own a gun as stated in the Constitution.....period

 

Exactly. Its total BS certain states have these laws that prohibit that.

 12/01/2016 02:16 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: Cole

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.



Liar? What I said is in the first four words?



Scalia was your guy and he was a Literalist, so I'm just going by what the document actually says.


"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

It's the right of the PEOPLE...not the right of the militia.

LIAR!



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 12/01/2016 03:26 PM
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RustyTruck

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You'll shoot your eye out.

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 12/01/2016 03:45 PM
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StirfryMcflurry

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Gun sales up,

Gun store robberys up,

Hate crimes up,

Troll posts up,

Stock market up,

And the REAL show aint  even started yet!

Mission USA in progress... stay tuned.

Pick up my guitar and play, just like yesterday.

 

 12/01/2016 04:41 PM
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RustyTruck

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Guns are going to be a dime a dozen.

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 12/01/2016 05:09 PM
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ww

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The Supreme Court has so far upheld strict gun laws.  That could change with a Trump court.  

Florida is unusual in not allowing open carry, I think one of five states.  The last session of the legislature would likely have passed an open carry measure but for one ranking senator.  He's gone, due to term limits.  

 12/01/2016 07:20 PM
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johnnyboy

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I want to see what the trumpettes think once a bunch of Muslim Americans start arming themselves with guns like Ted the motor city madman nugent and then start exercising their right to call for a violent overthrow like Ted did. As long as there's no double standard, this should be no problem.

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