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Topic Title: Carrier Topic Summary: We are pleased to have reached a deal with President-elect Trump & VP-elect Pence to keep close to 1,000 jobs in Indy. Created On: 11/30/2016 10:26 AM |
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12/01/2016 08:26 AM
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Wouldn't it suck to get all excited about this and then find out your job was one of the half that WASN'T saved, even after all the government concessions?
------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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12/01/2016 08:43 AM
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The firm also spent $12 billion to inflate its stock price instead of using that money to invest in new plants and workers. Its called a stock buy back its not a shady practice. Its meant to reward investors who believe in the company. Its all on the up and up [SEC filings]. You should look into this kind of thing, it will help you avoid poverty in retirement. |
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12/01/2016 08:45 AM
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Government subsides for companies is a good thing. Very socialist. Go Trump! 100% correct. ------------------------- I was right. |
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12/01/2016 08:48 AM
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Government subsides for companies is a good thing. Very socialist. Go Trump! 100% correct. The state give the companies the break the schools and infrastructure suffers from lack of funds so they raise taxes and fees on the citizens. Great work. ------------------------- I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I noticed it always coincides with their own desires Susan B. Anthony 1896 Impeach Trump |
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12/01/2016 08:50 AM
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Same thing would be true if you give corporations subsidies, like we're doing for solar power, right? ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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12/01/2016 08:51 AM
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If I was one of the 1,000 whose job was saved I would be thankful without regard to the details of the deal.
Question: How can people cheer the Carrier deal yet boo president Obama when he saved saved millions of auto industry jobs? |
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12/01/2016 09:00 AM
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carrier deal and auto industry are apples and oranges one was a failing the other is healthy
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12/01/2016 09:03 AM
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True. Carrier just increased their bottom line due to a government handout.
The auto industry has paid back their freebee, will Carrier do the same? ------------------------- I was right. |
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12/01/2016 09:04 AM
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why would you pay back an incentive?
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12/01/2016 09:06 AM
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They are going to keep our money for profit?
That's goddamn socialism!! ------------------------- I was right. |
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12/01/2016 05:30 PM
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I am surprised that all those people that hated the detroit bailout can trumpet this little deal out of the other side of their mouths.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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12/01/2016 06:04 PM
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Why don't you tell us what the deal is and then maybe we can comment. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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12/01/2016 07:16 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/indiana-gives-7-million-in-tax-breaks-to-keep-carrier-jobs-1480608461?client=safari
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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12/01/2016 08:04 PM
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So, now you know why Pence had not resigned yet from his Governor job.
The $7 million incentive is not coming from the Feds, it is from the State through the state's Indiana Economic Development Corporation. And who can authorize the money? Only the Governor can. So, is was imperative that Pence stay as Governor until at least this deal was executed. ------------------------- "Greg Hayes, UTC chief executive officer, criticized Trump, without mentioning his name, at a Nov. 1 appearance at the Council on Foreign Relations. "Developing an isolationist approach will not - I repeat not - create growth or jobs nor will it make any country great," he said. "The forces of globalization are real and they are inescapable." But he finally had to give in because of possible retaliation in some form or other from the Clown King jeopardizing the highly lucrative $6 billion annually UTC receives in U.S. military and other contracts. --------------------------- |
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12/01/2016 08:47 PM
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The 7 million is bullshit. But if it's true that there was a threat toward government contracts of the parent company, that's a straight up pinko socialist move and I like it.
Trump really is a national socialist. I prefer the democratic flavor, but we'll take the jobs. It just can't be sustained like this. And he's still making big promises even tonight. ------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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12/02/2016 01:57 AM
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So 1300 jobs are going to Mexico and we are giving them a $7 mil tax break and Trump calls this winning? ------------------------- "I remember South Africa in the late 70's, sleeping on the beach at J-bay, smoking ganja with the blacks. On weekends we'd go to the pub in East London to drink beer and fight with the Afrikaners. They liked to fight, I liked to fight. It was a good time" |
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12/02/2016 05:08 AM
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Crony capitalism.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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12/02/2016 06:07 AM
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Better get that wall built quick. 1300 more Mexicans are coming in.
------------------------- So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off. |
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12/02/2016 06:54 AM
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There are some things to like about this deal.
I like the idea of denying US government contracts to corporations who move jobs overseas. Bernie does too. The R's no likey. Had Obama suggested such a thing they would have had a conniption over on Faux News. The orange DIC does it and they swoon. But no matter, what's good is good, hypocrisy notwithstanding. ------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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12/02/2016 06:59 AM
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Nothing to see here folks, move along, the Carrier deal is business as usual, it's just that the Tangerine Dream is making a publicity stunt out of it and his supporters are acting like he's doing something novel.
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