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 11/27/2016 05:35 PM
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What in the hell does South Florida have to do with the keys?

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Originally posted by: Cole

What in the hell does South Florida have to do with the keys?


All of the water that is/was supposed to flow from the lake okeechobee region all the way down to the keys was removed...or should I say...MOST OF IT!

our natural water shed was trashed!

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 11/27/2016 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: Cole



What in the hell does South Florida have to do with the keys?




All of the water that is/was supposed to flow from the lake okeechobee region all the way down to the keys was removed...or should I say...MOST OF IT!



our natural water shed was trashed!


You are an idiot.

That is one of the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

And if some act of God makes what you say the truth, how does less water make the sea level higher?



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 11/27/2016 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by: scombrid

Originally posted by: Fish Killer  If it were global warming water level rise the water would NEVER go away! EVER!




That is the same as sitting on the beach and hour after low tide and asserting that because each wave doesn't wash incrementally higher up the beach than the previous that the tide is in fact not going to come in.




When temporal and spatial variations in sea surface height are averaged through time, the average sea level is rising. The mean rise across the keys in the 20th century was something on the order of 300mm. That has differing effects in different places depending on different starting elevations.



No matter what you attempt to bill shit.....once rizen water has infiltrated an area...it isn't leaving!

once water rises...its not receding.....so your 'global warming' crap states.

are you trying to claim that melted glacial water mysteriously goes away after a period of time....

we aren't talking about tides...we are talking about rising water and flooded areas.

if the water rose to flood an area....it's not going to recede...it's ....according to your 'data' only going to get MORE flooded over time.

FOOL!





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 11/27/2016 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by: Cole

Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: Cole
What in the hell does South Florida have to do with the keys?


All of the water that is/was supposed to flow from the lake okeechobee region all the way down to the keys was removed...or should I say...MOST OF IT!
our natural water shed was trashed!


You are an idiot.
That is one of the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
And if some act of God makes what you say the truth, how does less water make the sea level higher?


Nope...your a MORON!





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 11/27/2016 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer  When the army corps of engineers removed the natural flow of water through southern florida they caused that and other serious problems....it has nothing to do with global warming! NOTHING!

While that has royally screwed up the hydrology of the lowermost peninsula and the uppermost keys...

That flow alteration isn't the cause of upslope migration of mangroves and pines in the lower and middle keys.



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 11/27/2016 05:48 PM
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Less fresh water lets saltwater infiltrate the land...eroding it and altering it.

Salt is a corrosive!

It eats everything.

Coquina rock does NOT like it!

Mangroves MOVE because of it!



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 11/27/2016 05:51 PM
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What?

Less water makes higher water levels?

Less fresh water in the Keys caused them to erode?

Once water gets somewhere it stays?

Are you fcking retarded?

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 11/27/2016 05:52 PM
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The water from the glades does not affect the sea surface height in Big Pine or Marathon or Key West or any of the small uninhabited keys down that way that are shrinking.

Fresh water is a lot more corrosive to limestone than salt water.

While we are on the topic of corrosive. What happens when you dissolve CO2 into water faster than biogeochemical processes remove it or buffer the acid that is created by it?



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 11/27/2016 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by: Cole  Less fresh water in the Keys caused them to erode?

He seems to think that salt water is corrosive to limestone.

Once water gets somewhere it stays?

Earlier in the thread he said that "water seeks its own level".

It would be helpful if he reconciled these statements.

 



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 11/27/2016 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by: Cole

What?



Less water makes higher water levels?

No the water levels haven't changed.....that's the point! The land has changed! Saltwater intrusion. When you remove the fresh water the saltwater moves in replacing it....that's how all the wells in south Florida keep getting trashed!

Less fresh water in the Keys caused them to erode?

Less fresh water means more saltwater...altering the salinity. EVERYTHING is going to change!

Once water gets somewhere it stays?

Water seeks it's own level...PERIOD!

Are you fcking retarded?

Yes...you are fcking retarded!




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 11/27/2016 06:11 PM
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Mayport, Key West, and Pensacola all have measured changes in sea surface height of about 10 inches from 1925 to 2000.

The change in hydrology in the Everglades did not cause that.



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 11/27/2016 06:13 PM
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BULL CRAP!

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 11/27/2016 06:15 PM
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The Florida Keys, like the Bahamas, are a limestone platform.  The Keys, typical of the US, have very long tidal gauge records (that was high tech of the 1850s or so; San Diego had the first on the Pacific coast, and their tide gauge was the first scientific instrument to detect an earthquake, by picking up a small tsunami from Japan.  

The tide gauges tell what's happened up till now quite accurately.  The future is of course a bit more speculative, but nevertheless predictable.  

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Staff gauges are set to an elevation, as are all other water monitoring stations.

Elevation is factored into the data.

But by all means, feel free to keep doubling down on your stupid.

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 11/27/2016 06:17 PM
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Ironically, the only one FREAKing out in this thread is Fish Kisser

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 11/27/2016 06:18 PM
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Been going to the Keys for 50 years....water is the same height as when I was a child.

Keep posting that Federal/NASA/anything Government Crap.....it's all CRAP!

Altered to meet your agenda!

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 11/27/2016 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by: ww

The Florida Keys, like the Bahamas, are a limestone platform.  The Keys, typical of the US, have very long tidal gauge records (that was high tech of the 1850s or so; San Diego had the first on the Pacific coast, and their tide gauge was the first scientific instrument to detect an earthquake, by picking up a small tsunami from Japan.  




The tide gauges tell what's happened up till now quite accurately.  The future is of course a bit more speculative, but nevertheless predictable.  



Yep just like your Election and coronation of Hillary Roddam Clinton!

When was that supposed to happen?

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 11/27/2016 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by: ww

The Florida Keys, like the Bahamas, are a limestone platform.


What exactly happens when you add saltwater to limestone?

Just curious.

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 11/27/2016 06:28 PM
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The Bahamas sit in saltwater, so without looking it up, I'd say not much.

But that point is useless, elevation is taken into account when measuring water height.

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