So now that he has done a 180 and supports amnesty for illegal immigrants, are any of you Trump supporters gonna bail on him?

Are you going to realize he is a fraud?


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Like these;

https://www.americarisingpac.org/hillary-clintons-many-flip-flops-on-immigration/

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Romans 8;18-32 John 3;16-18

What has Clinton done 180's on? Gay marriage, TPP, coal, Iraq invasion, off the top of my head.

Are you going to realize that she's a fraud? Or will you be a hypocrite about 180's being fraud? Let us know.

To answer your question, I will vote for Trump without reservation.

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Hillary has certainly evolved on many issues but almost always in the right direction (Except TPP, I'm not sure about that one)

But has she ever done a 180 on the fundamental reason for her campaign' like this is?

Does anybody buy this?



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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

It's not a contest on who flips more, the question on the table is does it matter to you that Trump is now praising Obama's policy on deportation and basically adopting Jeb's position.

I say no, you guys will stick with him no matter what because he makes you feel virile.

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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

Looks like

one Trump Toady

is pissed.

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 08/25/2016 at 10:15 AM by WG

"What are we going to build?!?"

"A Door!!!"

"Who's gonna pay for it?!?"

Well, maybe it could be change order on the wall....

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add a signature since I'm here in profile anyway

Didn't answer my quesition, did you? If a 180 is a fraud, it's a fraud. Clinton has several 180's.

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I :heart; Q

You don't get it do you?

Your boy called Jeb Bush weak for advocating the exact same position he is now gravitating to.

He's a chameleon at best.  And at worst...

 

I think I did answer your question.
But I guess I need to spell it out more, even as I reject your lame false equivalence.

I do think Hillary's 180 on TPP is a bit fake, but I don't really care so much as I'm not really sure where I am on that anyway.
It is a Republican thing that the President supported and the Republican candidate is against, so that's all kinda weird.

On gay marriage, she evolved with the nation, she is old after all.
I'm not sure what the flip on coal is, but again, knowledge of how bad the climate change problem really is has grown for most rational people.

She got Iraq badly wrong, and now agrees it was a mistake.
It cost her the nomination in 2008.
I voted against her in the 2008 primary and again in the 2016 primary mainly because she got that wrong.
My biggest beef against her.
context

But in none of those cases, did she sell a line of racist xenophobic bullshit as her primary campaign meme, only to try and renounce it when she realized it was a loser with most people.

If I thought Donald had really had a change of heart, I would applaud him,
but don't think most people will see this flip as sincere.





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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 08/25/2016 at 11:46 AM by WG

Trump could also be attempting to steal back some #NeverHillary / #HillNo votes from Gary Johnson.

That's exactly what he (Kellyanne Conway?) is doing.
But I think it won't work, and might even be a net negative, taking some of the air out of his base.

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 08/25/2016 at 12:08 PM by WG

Yes, I see now. If the guy I don't like does a 180, it's fraud. If, however, my guy does one, it is a commendable evolution.

By that standard, it is completely understandable that none of us Trump supporters consider any 180 to be a fraud. So, there you go.

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I :heart; Q

Like I said, if it's real, it's commendable.
I doubt it's real
But if you all commend the 180, after applauding the hate, then it's you that are the frauds.


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

"He hasn't changed his position on immigration. He's changed the words that he is saying,"
-Trump spokesperson Katrina Pierson

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

I never hold a change in position against anyone. I hate the term "flip flop" because it discourages people from changing their position after considering new information.

But when someone is floundering and starts changing their promises in what appears a desperate attempt to win votes I have to laugh and shake my head.

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Replace turf grass with native plants that don't need irrigation and synthetic fertilizers or chemicals that can go into our waterways and ocean

Katrina Pierson is an imbecile.


I'm ok with someone's opinion evolving, especially when new information is available, but Trump has adopted the same positions he excoriated his primary opponents for having.

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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

Desperate time take desperate measures.

Two weeks ago all illegals were going to be deported and he going to look into the legality of deporting "anchor babies."

Today he is is for amnesty?

Are you fcking joking?



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I was right.

During the last round of staff changes, I was hoping that Katrina Pierson wouldn't be fired or replaced.

I'm delighted that she is continuing to do what she had been doing for the last so many months. Providing the audience unadulterated comic relief, every time she opens her mouth.

Kellyanne Conway is doing a great job for him though. Going on Rachel Maddow and playing nice was a strong play. I think she's behind the new trump.

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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".