http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/27/...echoes-dunn/index.html

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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

No surprise that progs don't want to put America first.

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The last time we saw that slogan Trump's ancestors wanted be friends with Hitler and turn our backs on Britain.

Luckily we had a steady hand on the tiller in the form of FDR.

It was a fascist slogan then, and it's a fascist slogan now.

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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

Gee, more propaganda wrapped up in a "news article", to force an opinon, without any focus on actual facts of the person. Nope, just the words said tied to history so you can have the opinion they want you to have.

Seriously, lets break this article down:

"It is extremely unfortunate that in his speech Wednesday outlining his foreign policy goals, Donald Trump chose to brand his foreign policy with the noxious slogan "America First," the name of the isolationist, defeatist, anti-Semitic national organization that urged the United States to appease Adolf Hitler." HAHAHA, the "noxious slogan" of America First? WHY THE FUCK IS THAT SUCH A BAD PREMISE? Its not, at least untill you tie it to Hitler.

And, they throw his qoute about illegal immigrants taken out of contex and painted as a general statemnent against Mexicans. Just to reenforce the opinion of him being racist.

Come on, Rusty, you're better than that. Surely you can see through this BS, can't you? Trump is now "Anti-Semetic Hitler like because he said he would put the interests of America first in all of his decision?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Give me a break.

 

 

You think that Trump wants to be friends with Hitler? I doubt that.

Let's face it, the PiC's "American Last" philosophy hasn't worked out so well. I say go the other way.

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America First

1) He knows exactly where the phrase came from. Fascist.

2) He is clueless where the phrase came from. Idiot.

Lose lose either way.

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I was right.

Trump wants to ride horses with a shirtless Putin.

OBX, history matters. Unless you want to keep living it over and over again, you pay attention to the signs.

Read a bit about the old "America First" movement and see if you don't see some parallels.



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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

Im not saying history doesn't matter. I'm saying cherry picking words said by Trump that are the same things said by other people throughout history, and then making the giant leap saying they are the same, is dishonest at best.

This is what Trump said: “My foreign policy will always put the interests of the American people and American security above all else,” Trump said during a speech organized by the National Interest magazine. “That will be the foundation of every single decision that I will make. ‘America First’ will be the major and overriding theme of my administration.” Tell me agian why that is such a horrible stance? Why is it so terrible, Hitler/Mussolini like, to put the country's interest first in making foriegn policy decisions???? Would you rather the opposite????? Seriously, would you rather he strike deals that benifit other countries and not our own? 

And by the way, "America First" is not his slogan. "Make America Great again" is. Try to see through the BS, man. They take what he said, spin it into his slogan, and then tie the "slogan" to what a dictator in history used, and then write an entire article on that premise. This article is perfect example of propaganda and trying to control your opinion. Open your eyes and start being critical of everything you read, even if it fits your premise. Its glarringly obvious once you do.

What if we tied the slogan of "Progress" or "Change" or "Hope" to all the other dictators that used them. Would you then start rejecting Obama too? ITS THE SAME LOGIC!!

He's sucking you in Obie. You don't see it yet, but I think you will eventually.

Trump studied Hitler speeches. He has studied and used the power of manipulation all his life.
If allowed to take control of the USA, it could be truly disastrous for the country in a way we haven't seen before.

There will be no winners in November. The only question is how badly America loses.



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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

Apparently history doesn't matter to you. If it did, you wouldn't be a socialist. History definitively that socialism doesn't work.

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I agree with your last statement, and I will even go on to say that Trump may not be all he seems. However, there is a striking difference between Hilter and Trump in that Trump does not have the propaganda machine behind him like Hitler did. But guess what party does? And again, it's not what he is saying, it's how he is being treated that gives me hope. There is no way in hell Trump will be able to pull off what Hitler or Mussolini did without the media behind him. Trump is smart, if he wanted to become what you fear he may, he would be coddling to the media instead of calling them out and bashing them.

And by the way, I read those links about Trump using the government to invoking immenint domain. That is some seriously fucked up shit. It also highlights the danger of a corrupt government, and the fact that we have a corrupt government here in the good ol USA. No way am I saying Trump is a nice guy, like I have been saying over and over again, it's the obvious threat to the establishment that causes my support.

Congratulations on being the first and only one to produce evidence of why you have the opinion you do.

 

On HBO: Vice " Trump in Dubai"

On the same episode is: Chinese in Africa.

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

The thing that worries me at the moment probably as much or more than anything else would be Bernie millennials who will be so disgusted with Hillary that they could vote Drumpf just to "blow the system up".

FWIW take a look through this article for an interesting read and I'll leave the topic alone for now: http://www.theatlantic.com/nat...-hitler/254146/


Just a snip-it: "What did Americans think of Hitler when they first met him in the 1920s and 1930s? You write that some of them burst out laughing at his shrill voice and jerky hand movements and refused to take him seriously.

That's true. In fact, some of the first people who met him did take him quite seriously. Truman Smith, who was a junior military attaché in the 1920s, came away from meeting Hitler and said, "This is a marvelous demagogue who can really inspire loyalty." It was the same with Karl von Wiegand, a Hearst correspondent who was the first American journalist to interview Hitler back in 1922. He was struck by Hitler's oratorical skills and his ability to whip people into a frenzy."

In the sense that I like to be a spectator on the sidelines of important historical events, it could even be interesting to see Drumpf win, but for the sake of my children I hope he doesn't.

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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

"This is a marvelous demagogue who can really inspire loyalty." It was the same with Karl von Wiegand, a Hearst correspondent who was the first American journalist to interview Hitler back in 1922. He was struck by Hitler's oratorical skills and his ability to whip people into a frenzy."

Who else fits that mold? In fact, as I recall, you yourself didn't become such a staunch Obama supporter untill you went to one of his speeches, no?

Either way, I undrestand your premise for fearing/hating Trump, I just disagree with the way you are connecting the dots.

If anything, I wish you would take your own fears/examples and look at the current political culture in this country with sincere objectivism. I think if you did, you would see more striking parellels to the Obama administration, the BLM movement, the Trump proteseters, and the mechanics they use to get away with what they do, than with Trump himself. Unfortuneatley, we humans are wired with cognitive dissonance, and its hard to recognize and break through it.

Actually I just happened to catch Obama speaking at the Democratic convention in 2004 and was certain that he would one day be President. I saw him at FIT before the 2012 election but it was hard to hear from the cheap seats.

It's not the oratory and power to persuade, it's the intent of the person. In fact, I don't see Trump as a good speaker at all, but it seems to work for his audience. I was more interested in the fact that some didn't take Hitler seriously and thought he was clownish, that is very similar to Trump.

I wouldn't say I fear Trump, I fear what he will do to our relations with our allies and to American prestige in the world, and the economic effects of isolationism. But I the the American system is resilient and will survive.

I'm not sure I get your use of cognitive dissonance in this context, but ok; I think you're referring to seeing things objectively in the era of mass propaganda.

In fact, there is a possibility a Trump win could be good for the left. If my concerns pan out, the Warren Wing of the D party could win big in the midterms and bring a real candidate like Liz against him in 2020.

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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

 

All I really want is a level playing field for everyone. Not one that caters to special interests either right or left. I believe in freedom (including women, minorities, and LGBT) with responsibility.
I would support a reasonable candidate from either party, and as soon as Bernie quits which I think will be any day now, I'm going to leave the D party and return to my previous status of NPA.

In spite of all the rhetoric, Obama has maintained essentially the status quo internationally. The spying deal hurt us, but I don't think that was Obama's idea. Trump seems to have a transactional view of the world, and I think it's more about long term relationships rather than "getting good deals" every time.

Trump is a megalomaniac, and it's all about him. What that could do to the country remains to be seen, but as of this moment I don't think he'll succeed. But it could happen on a long shot.



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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

If Trump wins, he will have to deal with the real power brokers, at home and abroad.

They will eat him alive and we will be stuck with a cornered rat as president. That ain't good.

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I was right.