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Created On: 01/27/2016 10:39 AM
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 01/27/2016 10:39 AM
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Greensleeves

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Executed or shot as he attempted harm on the authorities?

The followers letting people know he had his hands up. The followers of the followers outraged!

Somewhere on web a report he charged authorities.

In either case a martyr but in one case the people reporting he was executed will look like liars.

The Feds are speaking a little later and there are assuredly cameras on the incident right?

A case of he said he said would be most unfulfilling!

 

 01/27/2016 11:23 AM
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Here's a thorough and competent look at Mr Finicum's demise at the Washington Post.

 01/27/2016 11:42 AM
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"Finicum had told CNN earlier this month he'd rather die than go to jail -- a statement that highlights the level of disdain and disrespect that many of these armed occupiers feel toward the government."


Glad we could accommodate him. And good riddance.

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My fav part of the Finicum-as-martyr narrative is when Ammon Bundy supposedly was making cell phone calls from the back of a police car ........ yea, right.

The Post article is entirely correct in that it is vital to the "movement" to have a martyr and they will do everything they can to generate one.

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"He was reaching for something in his waste band. I thought I saw a gun. I was in fear for my life."



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Waste band

You mean he was pulling something out of his ass?



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are these bundys related to ted bundy? He was a psycho killer



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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: Wookie

Waste band




You mean he was pulling something out of his ass?






Most likely, yes.

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It's the start of the Cowboys Lives Matter movement.

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 01/27/2016 06:18 PM
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Cole

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Hey, I have an idea, let's take over a building, then go drive around when we run out of smokes and are craving BBQ ribs.

Pure fcking genius!

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 01/27/2016 06:28 PM
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Here's a vid from a "patriot" that was on scene.  The feds got the young peckerwood that posted the tearful goodbye to his kids prior to heading to the new Alamo.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxJJKgX_2iY

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They aren't exactly Che and Fidel.

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Interesting video.

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 01/28/2016 06:24 AM
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 the vid guy mention he was released because he didn't leave a facebook rant. 

 01/28/2016 06:42 AM
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Facebook is law enforcement's greatest invention. This Finicum wrote a book about his cowboy freedom, he wore a gun on his hip and he loudly proclaimed to everyone his bumper sticker philosophy about how they could have his gun when they pry it from his cold dead hand. I doubt that anyone with that attitude is going to pleasantly go out on his knees with his hands up. I also think that if these law enforcement officers were interested in going in to shoot first and clear out the whole park in a hail of bullets, they would not have waited and done the traffic stop in a way designed to avoid gunfire. This guy wanted to be a martyr and he committed suicide by cop to give every like minded pseudo patriot that hates our government a flash point. Can you honestly believe that if this guy was really the man he said he was that he would lose all credibility if he was easily cuffed and jailed?

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 01/28/2016 06:58 AM
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You guys never answered: What would your hero Putin have done to end this situation?

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 01/28/2016 07:08 AM
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Obama is weak because he waited and didn't shoot them all.



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 01/28/2016 08:56 AM
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Interesting Johnnyboy... he had to do it. 

For him it would have been an indignity if the feds had hit him with a beanbag or a taser.

I think the feds might be blowing it by not releasing the video they supposedly have.  It would squash the "he was holding his hands up" rumors but it could make him more a hero with the militias if he looked good getting blasted. 

Social media is hot with psychos pledging allegiance against the flag. Could OKC II be around the corner?

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Regardless of the video, witnesses accounts and the conclusion, a whole group of extremely well armed pseudo cowboys have declared war on their government because they want ranchers to be able to use the land we all own as their own without paying for it. They call themselves patriots but everyone of them hates our government and is nostalgic for a country that only exists in black and white westerns. I am glad that our government did not go in with SWAT and clear them out in a way that could never be forgotten or forgiven, but I also like the idea that the feds waited and gave everyone a chance, lulled the boneheads into a false sense of security to the point that they went on a field trip, and then used a traffic stop to minimize conflict and bloodshed. These are the feds that have apparently remembered the lessons of Waco and Ruby Ridge. That's progress.

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 01/29/2016 05:58 AM
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SlimyBritches

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vid out showing the Patriot reaching under his coat to pull his gun.  wasn't kneeling.

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