What kind if rewrite would actually reduce mass killings or prevent them?

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

No rewrite needed. But, there are many other avenues of Law that need to be exercised in order to identify, and isolate, those that are unacceptable to society.

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Dora Hates You

I think they should start with you.

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None. I mean we could just get the root of the problem and ban murder, couldn't we? That would stop it. No need to ban guns once we did that.

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How about we make schools gun free zones, and make it illegal to bring one on campus, then we'll make murder illegal. Surely, the combination of laws will prevent these kinds on horrible incidents....

Start with imposing huge penalties on criminals who totally ignore most laws, and hound them into submission, those guys who are career unlawabiding sorts , criminals with guns are the problem plain and simple

These wackos usually shoot themselves so I believe guns on campus will not DETER them.

Armed security/police ON CAMPUS would limit the number of students and faculty killed.

Short response time is critical to saving lives.

I've read enough papers conveying the intent of the founding fathers that I have trouble with much of a rewrite.

Since its ratification on On December 15, 1791, it served us well for almost 200 years.

I think the root cause of the mass killings is something other than simple availability of guns under the 2nd Amendment, and whatever has changed in the last 30-50 years should be investigated first.

Granted, the evolution of semiautomatic handguns, capability to carry more rounds of more lethal ammo, and so on are recent developments, but those don't seem to be near the highest contributing factors in the mass killings. More so in street crime, but anyone bent on destruction will find a way (e.g., fertilizer, gasoline, etc...)

how about banning specific drugs in the treatment of mental health???   Seriously, if cocaine used to be a perscription drug that is now banned, ban the drugs that these shooters are taking that trigger these episodes.... Force the mental health doctors to treat their patient some other way or with a different cocktail...

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^^^^ LOL.

Anyway, wasn't concealed carry permitted on the campus of this most recent tragedy?

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I would make a "shall issue" license requirement administered locally (state/county) by an elected board of gun enthusiasts.

With this license you could transfer between licensees and purchase at will. Transfer to a non-licensee would be a felony.
Conviction on a crime of violence or involuntary treatment for mental illness would revoke the license.

Denial would only be for good cause with right to appeal.


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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

Oregon law allows concealed carry on college campuses,
and some students were armed.
http://www.newsweek.com/weapon...-gun-free-zone-379860

Nuts don't go after schools because people aren't supposed to have guns there. They go after schools because there are defenseless children there.

A college wouldn't necessarily fit into that category but MOST kids aren't responsible enough to carry a concealed weapon at 18-20something years old.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Maybe some of what is in those papers could be added to codify our agreement as to that intent.

"A well regulated Militia (how?), being necessary to the security of a free State (why?), the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed (define infringed, add clarification, or "in any way")


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Remove the mass killings and some 30 odd thousand people still die from guns each year in the United States.

It's time to get serious over this matter.

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I was right.

Agreed, taking homicide/mass killings out of the eqaution, the only thing that will cull those numbers is education. Teach kids about firearms, how to handle them properly, how to respect them, and take the "awe" factor away from them. Bring back "Eddie the Eagle" and teach firearm safety in school/church/boy scouts/whatever.

But, if you focus on the numbers, and it really makes your heart bleed, there are more deadlier things, that kill more than guns do. Such as:

Cars: 32,719 people killed by them in 2013

Medical Malpractice: In 2010, the Office of Inspector General for Health and Human Services said that bad hospital care contributed to the deaths of 180,000 patients in Medicare alone in a given year.

Now comes a study in the current issue of the Journal of Patient Safety that says the numbers may be much higher — between 210,000 and 440,000 patients each year who go to the hospital for care suffer some type of preventable harm that contributes to their death, the study says.

That would make medical errors the third-leading cause of death in America, behind heart disease, which is the first, and cancer, which is second.

Perscription Drug Overdose: "CDC’s analysis shows that 38,329 people died from a drug overdose in the United States in 2010"........"nearly 60 percent of the drug overdose deaths (22,134) involved pharmaceutical drugs. Opioid analgesics, such as oxycodone, hydrocodone, and methadone, were involved in about 3 of every 4 pharmaceutical overdose deaths (16,651), confirming the predominant role opioid analgesics play in drug overdose deaths."

I can continue listing more examples if you'd like.

What part of "well regulated militia" did we gloss over where everyone can own any weapon they want?

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Ah, religion, bigotry dressed up as morality.

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What part of "well regulated militia" did we gloss over where everyone can own any weapon they want??                                                                                                                                      the part where it says:                                                                                                                 the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.... 

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Then, if we are to take into account the weapons available at that time, then yes, we ALL have the right to own a musket.

So, let me hear your argument that these mass shootings would be the same if the musket were used instead of semi-auto hand guns...?

The 2nd Amendment does not specify what TYPE of Arm can be owned. That's where Common Sense comes into play (hopefully...), and that's why the regular Joe can't own a rocket launcher, or a TANK.

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