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Topic Title: Are all of the major religions pretty much the same...same Father God, etc.?
Topic Summary: What do the scriptures say?
Created On: 09/29/2015 06:19 PM
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 09/29/2015 06:19 PM
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ummm

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 09/29/2015 06:25 PM
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WG

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Maybe seen differently by people who have been indoctrinated differently but of course, there is still only the one.

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 09/29/2015 06:50 PM
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Christians want to feel special but there is one positive power of the universe.

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It doesn't matter whether you believe Allah, Moses, Krishna, Thor, Zeus or the bearded one with white robes( christian god). What is important is we all in believe in nonsense...
 09/30/2015 04:52 AM
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bob3000

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pretty much, yes. Unless you have some proof they are not...and I don't mean a link, or cut n paste. & the idiot is on to something, for once ....Continue,

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 09/30/2015 05:12 AM
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Either you belive in God(s) or you don't. Either way, there is a common demominator of "faith" in being correct. Christians should respect the Atheist's faith, as much as the Atheists should respect the Christian's.

What an arrogant species we are to think that we are the creme de la creme, and alone in this massive universe........

 09/30/2015 06:22 AM
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Wookie

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Don't have to respect the faith.

Do have to respect the person and let them have their choices.  Unlike what normally goes on in here, haha.



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Man has created lots of imaginary dieties over the centuries. A one God is the newest version of man's creative mind. Man has created religion and it will change as he sees fit, man makes the rules of religion and his explaination on why he is here.

So yes, all mayjor relions are the same...they are made by man to serve his needs/power/greed whatever.

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 09/30/2015 10:24 AM
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The "Bible" is a very late-comer. A good "start" would be with the mythology of Sumer.

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 10/07/2015 08:13 AM
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Psychologist outlines 16 human desires satisfied by religion

By the Ohio State University news staff


Throughout history, scholars and researchers have tried to identify the one key reason that people are attracted to religion.

Some have said people seek religion to cope with a fear of death. Others call it the basis for morality. Various other theories abound.

But in a new book, a psychologist who has studied human motivation for more than 20 years suggests that all these theories are too narrow. Religion, he says, attracts followers because it satisfies all of the 16 basic desires that humans share.

"It's not just about fear of death. Religion couldn't achieve mass acceptance if it only fulfilled one or two basic desires," said Steven Reiss, a professor emeritus of psychology at The Ohio State University and author of "The 16 Strivings for God," due to be published by Mercer University Press.

"People are attracted to religion because it provides believers the opportunity to satisfy all their basic desires over and over again. You can't boil religion down to one essence," he said.

Reiss's theory of what attracts people to religion is based on his research in the 1990s on motivation. He and his colleagues surveyed thousands of people and asked them to rate the degree to which they embraced hundreds of different possible goals.

In the end, the researchers identified 16 basic desires that humans all share: acceptance, curiosity, eating, family, honor, idealism, independence, order, physical activity, power, romance, saving, social contact, status, tranquility and vengeance.

Reiss then developed a questionnaire, called the Reiss Motivation Profile, that measures how much people value each of these 16 goals. More than 100,000 people have now completed the questionnaire. The research is described in Reiss's book "Who Am I? The 16 Basic Desires that Motivate our Action and Define Our Personalities."

"We all share the same 16 goals, but what makes us different is how much we value each one," Reiss said.

"How much an individual values each of those 16 desires corresponds closely to what he or she likes and dislikes about religion."

A key point is that each of the 16 desires motivates personality opposites and those opposites all have to find a home in a successful religion, Reiss said.

For example, there is the desire for social contact. "Religion has to appeal to both introverts and extroverts," Reiss said.

For extroverts, religion offers festivals and teaches that God blesses fellowship. For introverts, religion encourages meditation and private retreats and teaches that God blesses solitude.

Religion even finds ways to deal with the desire for vengeance, Reiss said. While some religions preach of a God of peace and encourage followers to turn the other cheek, there is also the other side: the wrath of God and holy wars.

"Religion attracts all kinds, including peacemakers and those who want a vengeful God," he said.

All religious beliefs and practices are designed to meet one or more of these 16 desires, Reiss explained.

For example, religious rituals fulfill the desire for order. Religious teachings about salvation and forgiveness tap into the basic human need for acceptance. Promises of an afterlife are designed to help people achieve tranquility.

What about atheism? While all people need to fulfill the same basic desires, not everyone will turn to religion to satisfy them, Reiss said. Secular society offers alternatives to fulfill all of the basic desires.

"Religion competes with secular society to meet those 16 needs and can gain or lose popularity based on how well people believe it does compared to secular society," Reiss said.

One of the basic desires, independence, may separate religious and non-religious people. In a study published in 2000, Reiss found that religious people (the study included mostly Christians) expressed a strong desire for interdependence with others. Those who were not religious, however, showed a stronger need to be self-reliant and independent.

Reiss said one advantage of his theory is that, unlike many other theories of religion, it can be scientifically tested.

"In '16 Strivings for God,' I discuss a mystical personality type, the kind of person who would likely find value and meaning in mystical experiences and would be attracted to religion for that reason," he said.

"We can test that and find out if there really is a mystical personality type," he said.

While the theory can say a lot about the types of people who are attracted to religion and different religious experiences, it cannot say anything about the truth of religious beliefs, Reiss said.

"I'm not trying to answer theological questions about the existence or nature of God," Reiss said. "What I'm trying to answer is the nature of why people embrace religion and God."



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 10/07/2015 09:21 AM
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After reviewing the above, I concur that

"eating" and religion go hand in hand.

Few eating experiences can compare to

a good church potluck dinner....

 



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SOOOO..Is man god made or is God man made ?
 10/07/2015 06:17 PM
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ummm

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Havananbama - I think some seek God because the glory, beauty and order of creation testifies that there must be a creator...and that creator must be good. 

All the babylonian and egyptian mythology was actually penned after the bible, recreating what they later said that the ancients believed before Christ...plagirizing from Christ's life, death and resurection and then recreating it in their own way. Nimrod/Semarimis/ Tammuz and Osirus/Isis/Horus were around before Christ...but the specific stories about their virgin births, etc. were written later, stolen from Christ. Also, many hundreds of years before Christ, the prophets wrote about Jesus...his virgin birth and how he was going to die and be reurected, so the pagan religions(and the force behind them) had plenty of clues about what God was going to do and how he was going to do it...lots of material available to hijack.The catholic church simply renamed the local pagan deities after saints and switched Semarimis and Tammuz to Mary and Jesus, worshipping both as God's...as they still due today per the catechism calling Mary co-redeemer.

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We don't really know with 100% certainty and probably never will in this life. What we do know is there is one particularly screwed up religion right now. That religion, Islam is causing roughly 99% of the trouble being caused by religions at this point in time.



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 10/07/2015 08:15 PM
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God is love......he came to earth as jesus so that we could be saved from our sins, he died on the cross for us.


 10/08/2015 08:48 AM
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Well, I must say that delusion runs strong in religious believers and how they twist history to make their belief system works for them. I am not here to judge, but when looking at religion from a global, non Christian myopic view, it all seems so contrived to serve those 16 human desires.

God(s) may be man's attempt to explain why he is here on this planet, but it is such a feeble attempt. Look at all the religions that try to explain it. I say, why do we have to try an explain it? You live, you die, make your life as rich and full with respect, kindness and empathy, plain and simple.

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"All the babylonian and egyptian mythology was actually penned after the bible,"

really?
I'd like to hear more about that

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 10/08/2015 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by: villageidiot

SOOOO..Is man god made or is God man made ?


Both

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Originally posted by: WG "All the babylonian and egyptian mythology was actually penned after the bible," really? I'd like to hear more about that
yes, me too. we are waiting...

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