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Topic Title: Bad wind turbines!!
Topic Summary: But you can't explore for oil and "threaten" an owl
Created On: 07/28/2015 05:38 AM
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crankit

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Wind turbines threaten Midwest birds, feds say

 

 

 

Wind turbines could be forcing native bird populations into decline in the Great Plains, a government study finds, raising new concerns about the long-term effects of renewable energy on wildlife.

The U.S. Geological Survey on Monday said wind farms "placed in prime wildlife habitat in North and South Dakota can influence the distribution of several species of grassland birds for years after construction, including species whose populations are in serious decline."

The study, funded by the Geological Survey and utility firm NextEra Energy, was published in the journal Conservation Biology on Friday. The type of long-term research done by the agency on the effects of renewable energy on breeding bird habitats is "rare," the study notes.

The agency found that seven of nine bird species studied from 2003-12 were displaced from areas in North and South Dakota after a wind facility was built. Some of the species fled the area in the first year after construction, while many continued to leave their breeding habitat for up to five years after construction, according to the Geological Survey.

 



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 07/28/2015 05:45 AM
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Cole

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Can you post a link to the actual study?

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 07/28/2015 06:32 AM
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scombrid

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But you can't explore for oil and threaten an owl

The study your post references finds that there may be habitats which cannot accomodate wind turbines because of turbine impacts on threatened wildlife.

Therefore your subtitle is senseless.

 



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 07/28/2015 06:33 AM
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Greensleeves

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Sure!   Spankit raggin on wind.   Coal plants have been killing birds with impunity (from the psychotic and uninformed right) since inception! 

 07/28/2015 06:37 AM
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scombrid

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Yeah, there's that too.

These people never consider the total impacts of extracting, transporting, and burning coal.

But they'll point to any study that shows adverse impacts of wind on birds or bats and declare that all wind power is bad.

They'll also claim that environmentalists are ignoring the impact of wind on birds and such while trying to prohibit all use of fossil fuels. That claim is silly on its face since it is environmentalists that are driving the studies of the impacts of wind on wildlife.

 



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RustyTruck

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The intent of his post is to troll, not educate or provoke thoughtful discussion. Dismissed.

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 07/28/2015 07:13 AM
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Wookie

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The OP is senseless.



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 07/28/2015 07:17 AM
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WG

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Nobody should be exploring for oil anymore.
We have already found more of it than we can use.

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 07/28/2015 07:45 AM
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crankit

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I thought we were at, or beyond peak oil!



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 07/28/2015 10:56 AM
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WG

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We may be, but we have to stop burning it.
Any new oil found will probably have to stay in the ground.

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 07/29/2015 06:37 AM
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Cole

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The Chinese economy is crumbling and Iranian oil is getting ready to enter the market.

Oil corps are cutting job, I doubt there is any will or desire to search for more oil at the current time.

Speaking of oil, why has the Right gone so silent on the Keystone Pipeline?

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 07/29/2015 06:47 AM
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Cole

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kkkranky, I just searched the Nextera Energy site and didn't see the study, can you post the link?

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theglide

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Exxon Valdez in Alaska, the gulf spill a few years ago.........and the "Examiner" is complaining about wind?

Lord take me, I'm about ready to go.
 07/29/2015 09:35 AM
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crankit

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Poor coleslaw--took 30 seconds to find it!

26 years ago?



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 07/29/2015 10:14 AM
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theglide

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To this very day the Exxon Valdez effects linger.

Look it up.

If you care, search "Exxon Valdez effects 2015".
 07/30/2015 06:50 AM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: crankit

Poor coleslaw--took 30 seconds to find it!




26 years ago?



Then post the link.

And can you please remove that dead space from the bottom of your posts?



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 07/30/2015 07:05 AM
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bob3000

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Originally posted by: Cole And can you please remove that dead space from the bottom of your posts?
prolly not. it's linked to the one in his brain.

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