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Topic Title: Iran's kind words
Topic Summary: Did we just sign some sort of treaty with them?
Created On: 07/27/2015 06:43 AM
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 07/27/2015 06:43 AM
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 07/27/2015 07:06 AM
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WG

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Yes, because they are nutcase religious conservatives, and they still do not trust us.
We are working on talking them down from that second one, but it will take a long time.


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 07/27/2015 07:09 AM
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RustyTruck

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Remember that time Khrushchev pounded his shoe on the table and said he would bury us?

Belligerents don't become friends overnight.

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 07/27/2015 07:10 AM
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follydude

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I guess English isn't his 1st language.
 07/27/2015 07:21 AM
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jdbman

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Chicken hawks repugs and teabags, just want to fuel the military industrial complex. War is good for business? Do we really need to drag these ancient idea conserviact freaks into the next century? Naaa, just leave the bitchy lil twats behind.

Diplomacy is all about markets. You dumbasses want to war with other nations? That is just killin consumers. We need to convert every freakin one of those Iranians to consumers of American goods , services and intellectual capital.

You want jobs? Stop killin the customers.



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 07/27/2015 09:24 AM
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RustyTruck

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If you have any experience with western Persians you'll note they are fond of the finer things. Taste notwithstanding, they are the most susceptible of the region to western capitalist conspicuous consumption.

They are not ethnically Arab, and their young people could easily be "westernized".



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 07/27/2015 11:17 AM
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WG

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We could easily have had a strong ally in the middle east today, had we just let them have their democracy back in 1951.


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 07/27/2015 11:28 AM
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dingpatch

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He's trying to tell Kerry that he has "a right pretty mouth, , , ,".

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 07/27/2015 12:22 PM
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jdbman

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Why would Iran call the US "aggresive and criminal"?


maybe this explains:

( from Wikipedia )

"3 July 1988: Iran Air Flight 655 was flying over the Persian Gulf on its way to Dubai from Bandar Abbas. According to the U.S. version of events, the USS Vincennes Navy cruiser mistook the airliner for an Iranian F-14 Tomcat and the cruiser shot the airliner down with a missile, killing all 16 crew and 274 passengers. Iran maintains it was an intentional act of barbarism.[39] The United States called the incident a "mistake", although the Airbus airliner was over 20 times larger in size than an F-14 jet, within close proximity to the ship's long range radars.[40] Furthermore, the United States, through Vice President George H. W. Bush, expressed regret and promised to compensate victims, but that the money would not go through the Iranian government.[41] Newsweek published a long article titled "Sea of Lies" that largely blamed Capt. Will Rogers, the Vincennes' commander.[42][43]"


Now on the other hand what would happen if Iran shot down a US flagged airliner with 290 people killed?

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 07/27/2015 12:24 PM
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News media in Iran are to support the agreement.  BBC.

 

 07/27/2015 12:46 PM
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RustyTruck

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We need to fess up to the crappy things we've done, remind them of the crappy thing they have done, and try to shake hands.

But then, we have our "Merka don't 'pologize!" crowd and they have their "Death to America!" crowd, so I guess everybody has their own rednecks to manage.


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 07/27/2015 12:58 PM
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Wookie

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I think the clerics are trying to make the deal look okay to their right.

Just as Republicans here have to oppose it whether they really do or not.



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 07/27/2015 01:16 PM
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theglide

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Paper tiger.

They can talk all they want.

If Trump gets in and they initiate hostile actions he will light them up like a christmas tree.

You don't dick around with New Yorkers.
 07/27/2015 06:55 PM
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RustyTruck

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And new york dicks don't get elected president. I'll give you ten to one.

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In 1975/76 the local Iranian student dissident group met at our house in Tally. They'd come over the back fence with paper bags over their heads! "The Shah's men are everywhere, , ,". A lot of them were pretty up-tight and otherwise hard core, but Mirdad seemed to be pretty cool.

The last night they met at our house two large, black, sedans pulled up in front of the house. The guys headed to the backyard and scattered.

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 07/28/2015 05:06 AM
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Cole

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The Right in this country are just uninformed as usual.

There are two parts to Iran, the loons that run the place and the people who want to be free.

Sure, every country has their crazies... they have their fish killers just like we do, but they don't speak for the whole country.

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 07/28/2015 02:40 PM
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theglide

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I'll give you ten to one.


You're probably right as it seems only the establishment (GOP/Dem) appointees get nominated.

BUT..........the guy has defied all odds so far and personally, I think he would be good for the country.
 07/28/2015 05:54 PM
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RustyTruck

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You really can't see why he would be terrible? Narcissist leaders seldom do well, and sometimes become bloodthirsty dictators.

I swear some people want an authoritarian so bad.

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In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".
 07/28/2015 08:01 PM
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theglide

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Not an authoritarian, just someone who doesn't owe political favors due to campaign contributions.

How many more Morgan-Stanley and wall street appointees do we need?

They're killing us.
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