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Federal officials reportedly want a criminal investigation into Hillary Clinton's State Department emails
Business Insider By Bryan Logan
6 hours ago
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Questions about Hillary Clinton's use of potentially classified emails during her time as Secretary of State have led to a new request from federal officials.
Two inspectors general have reportedly asked the Justice Department to open a criminal investigation into the matter.

The New York Times reports that the request stems from an assessment sent in a memo last month that Clinton's private email account had "hundreds of potentially classified emails" in it.

That assessment conflicts with Clinton's earlier statements that there were no such emails in the private account she used as secretary of state during the first term of the Obama administration.

In a separate investigation by the State Department, it was found that "some information in the messages should be retroactively classified," according to The Times.

The newspaper notes that it is unknown whether or not information contained in the emails was marked classified by the State Departent when Clinton sent or received them.

Since it was first revealed in March that Clinton used a private email account to conduct state business, there have been many questions about whether her actions were lawful, and whether classified government information could have compromised.

In an interview with CNN July 7, Clinton declared there was "no law" barring her from exercising "full authority" to choose how she wanted to communicate as secretary of state.

It is not yet clear if or when the Justice Department would open a criminal investigation.

Broader questions about Clinton's private email server have, at times, drawn attention away from the 2016 Democratic frontrunner's presidential campaign, and adding to worries that her use of private email for work-related communication was an attempt to shield the emails from scrutiny under the Freedom of Information Act.
The State Department is currently wading through some 55,000 pages of Clinton's emails as part of its effort to rule out any potential misuse. Three thousand pages of emails were released last month.

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ABC News reports that the Inspector Generals of the State Department and a "intelligence community" member have asked the Justice Department to conduct a criminal investigation.

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I bet the finding will be "there is no evidence of any wrong doing." Not because there is no evidence of wrong doing, but because she is a powerful democrat.

 "I think we sort of have lost track of the fact this is a government that has to be accountable to the people of our country".....Hillary Clinton.

Oh, the irony.....

 07/26/2015 01:10 PM
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It's not a criminal investigation, it was scaled back.

I guess the republicans behind the investigation don't really want to open Pandora's Box.

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Hillary Must Explain Her 2-Month Email Gap
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Scandal: Hillary Clinton assured the country in March that she had turned over every single work-related email from her private server. So why are there no emails for two months during a critical time at State?

Here's what Clinton said at that March press conference. "I ... provided all my emails that could possibly be work-related, which totaled roughly 55,000 printed pages, even though I knew that the State Department already had the vast majority of them. We went through a thorough process to identify all of my work-related emails and deliver them to the State Department."

Now it turns out that there are two months during which - if Clinton's statement above is to be believed - she apparently didn't send any emails at all while Secretary of State.

"There are no emails between Clinton and her State Department staff during May and June 2012," reports the Daily Beast - which is hardly a right-wing news outlet - after reviewing 2,000 messages that have so far been made public.

These weren't just any two months, either. They happened to be when violence was erupting in Benghazi and when Clinton's top aide - Huma Abedin - obtained a special exemption that let her work for the State Department and for the Clinton Foundation.

On May 22 of that year, for example, a rocket-propelled grenade hit the International Red Cross's office in Benghazi.

A few weeks later, an IED blew a 12-foot hole in the wall of the U.S. consulate there. Five days after that, an RPG hit a convoy carrying the British ambassador.

During that same email gap, Abedin received her "special government employee" status. The Associated Press has been trying for two years to get records relating to this unusual work situation, only to get stonewalled by the State Department.

You'd think there would have been as much email traffic about these events as there were about Hillary's struggles with her office fax machine.

Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., who heads the House Benghazi investigation, had already complained about "gaps of months and months and months" in the Clinton emails that had been turned over to his committee.

A particularly suspicious one, he said, is during Clinton's Oct. 18, 2011, trip to Libya, during which she was photographed using her Blackberry.

"We have no emails from that day. In fact we have no emails from that trip," Gowdy said.

Of course it's possible that Clinton avoided sending emails during these trying times. And she could have been playing solitaire on her Blackberry when a reporter snapped that picture on her Libya trip.

And maybe she inadvertently deleted 87,640 minutes worth of emails on her server while she was stretching across her desk to grab her iPad.

Her campaign says not to worry, "more emails are slated to be released by the State Department next week, and we hope that release is as inclusive as possible."

Since Clinton has already been caught in several lies pertaining to her highly suspicious and possibly illegal private email account, saying "trust me" won't do.



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 07/30/2015 05:51 AM
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She needs to turn the email server over, in its entirety.

If people can hack into the records of all of our government employees, then they can hack into this server.

Let's say she runs for President and wins. Do we seriously want to be in a situation where our president is being blackmailed by China or by some lone wolf out there?

Sounds like this server would already look like a pot of gold or a lottery ticket to any hacker out there already. I would be surprised if someone hasn't already gotten into it.

For that reason alone, I don't think she should be allowed to run for President until that server has been examined.

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Edited: 07/30/2015 at 07:10 AM by Sniper
 07/30/2015 11:42 AM
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It gets better, and better, , , , , ,

Intelligence officials: Hillary Clinton's private server contained information from 5 US spy agencies
Business Insider By Michael B Kelley and Brett LoGiurato
52 minutes ago

(REUTERS/Brian Snyder)
Classified emails that were stored on the private email server of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton contained information from five US intelligence agencies, McClatchy reports.

A congressional official with knowledge of the matter told McClatchy that intelligence officials who saw the five classified emails determined that they included information from five US spy agencies.

One classified email - now public and pertaining to the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi - reportedly contained information from the National Security Agency, the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency.

McClatchy added, citing the official, that the "other four classified emails contained information from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence [DNI] and the CIA."

Last week, government inspectors told the Justice Department in a letter that "secret government information may have been compromised in the unsecured system she used at her New York home during her tenure as secretary of state," according to The Associated Press.

The inspectors requested the department to look into the possible mishandling of classified information on the server from Clinton's tenure as secretary of state.

Clinton, Democratic presidential front-runner in the 2016 election, has repeatedly said she broke no laws or rules by forgoing a standard government email account in favor of the private account. She has also said, as recently as last weekend, that she is "confident" she did not send or receive classified information by email.

Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill said in a statement last week that Clinton "followed appropriate practices in dealing with classified materials."

But the inspector general of the intelligence community, in a letter to Congress, said a limited sampling of Clinton's emails in question found at least four that contained classified information and should have been considered secret.

If Clinton had a technical security team to monitor her server for suspicious activity, Clinton could have had a system at least as secure at the State Department. If not, the information would have been vulnerable.

"The layers of security that would have to be employed to make a privately run exchange server as secure as something that is secured by the federal government would be pretty significant," Timothy Ryan, a former FBI supervisory special agent who now manages cyber investigations for Kroll, told The Washington Post in March. "It's not that it can't be done. I just find it improbable."

Clinton has said that the email system was established during Bill Clinton's presidential administration (1993-2001), and her team has stated that "her family's electronic communications was taken seriously from the onset."

No matter the level of security the Clintons employed - which is still largely unknown - the fact that this information was found on her personal server highlights why officials in her position are supposed to use government emails.

"Even if Secretary Clinton or her aides didn't run afoul of any criminal provisions, the fact that classified information was identified within the emails is exactly why use of private emails . . . is not supposed to be allowed," said Bradley Moss, a Washington attorney who specializes in national security matters. "Both she and her team made a serious management mistake that no one should ever repeat."

Broader questions about Clinton's private email server have at times drawn attention away from the Democratic front-runner's presidential campaign. The latest disclosure comes the same day as the release of a poll showing that a majority of voters nationwide do not consider her "honest and trustworthy."

A separate poll released last week showed that she also trailed three strong Republican contenders - former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, and US Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida - in theoretical general-election matchups in the key swing states of Colorado, Iowa, and Virginia.

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 07/30/2015 11:52 AM
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The new Bengazi/ dead horse for the GOP to beat instead of governing or talking about their record. yawn...

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Originally posted by: havanabama The new Bengazi/ dead horse for the GOP to beat instead of governing or talking about their record. yawn...


If the idea of a person or foreign country potentially being able to blackmail a prospective President with secret emails that they have hidden makes you yawn, then I don't know what would get your attention.

All I can say for you guys is please make sure she doesn't get the nod.

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The way the government has been hacked lately a server at her house might be MORE secure.

Still an appearance of impropriety that she should have anticipated.

Not exactly the body and smoking gun the diggers are looking for.


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This just continues to demonstrate the utter and complete incompetency of the repug and teabag. Buffons cant roast a fucking marshmellow. Look we all know Obama was born in Kenya. Its plain to see but you yahoos could not make it stick.

Any woman who lets her man get a bj from a jewish girl and live to lie about is slime of the highest order. Mrs Clinton has more baggage than a French whore gettin out of Paris during the revolution.

If things were reversed and the big O and Hbomb were repugs or teabags, we would have had them in a private room in Kansas by now.

While I'm at it, can anyone explain what kind of mammal that is on Trump's head?
Did he get spray painted at Econo paint? What is taking Palin so long to get in the race. Sign the petition asking Jon Steward not to retire until after this election.

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Keeps getting better, , , , tell it to the Judge, , , ,

Judge Sullivan Strikes Again

The State Department has been ordered to obtain answers From Hillary Clinton, Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills under penalty of perjury

By Sidney Powell | 08/01/15 12:56am

While Hillary Clinton's lawyers are stalling Congress and "negotiating" the terms of her testimony before the Benghazi committee - an option not allowed to ordinary Americans like bankers, executives, or accountants, federal Judge Emmet G. Sullivan has hit "refrigerator rule #6: Enough is enough." Earlier this week, federal Judge Richard Leon lambasted the State Department lawyers for their stonewalling. Now Judge Sullivan has chiseled a line in concrete. He has given the State Department only a week - until August 7 - to get some answers from Hillary Clinton, and her top aides Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills - under penalty of perjury. Last night on NewsMax TV with Emmy-award winning host Ed Berliner, I noted that Judge Sullivan recently reopened the Freedom of Information Act lawsuit by Judicial Watch to obtain emails from Huma Abedin, the top Clinton aide who is married to infamous and disgraced former Congressman Anthony Wiener. Judge Sullivan reopened the case when he learned that Clinton and her staff used personal email accounts to conduct government business. This is a flagrant violation of the Federal Records Act and jeopardizes national security - prompting rapidly escalating concerns of countless ramifications internationally, nationally, and criminally. Just hours ago, in that very case, Judge Sullivan entered a remarkable order, and he has given the State Department only a week to comply. Now the State Department must produce for the court's docket its correspondence with and between Mrs. Clinton, Ms. Abedin, and Ms. Cheryl Mills regarding the government records in their possession; identify what servers, etc. the State Department has; require Ms. Clinton, Ms. Abedin and Ms. Mills to state under oath whether they have produced all responsive materials; and, have Ms. Abedin and Ms. Mills describe the extent to which they used Ms. Clinton's server for government business.

The order reads: As agreed by the parties at the July 31, 2015 status hearing, the Government shall produce a copy of the letters sent by the State Department to Mrs. Hillary Clinton, Ms. Huma Abedin and Ms. Cheryl Mills regarding the collection of government records in their possession. These communications shall be posted on the docket forthwith. The Government has also agreed to share with Plaintiff's counsel the responses sent by Mrs. Clinton, Ms. Abedin and Ms. Mills. These communications shall also be posted on the docket forthwith. In addition, as related to Judicial Watch's FOIA requests in this case, the Government is HEREBY ORDERED to: (1) identify any and all servers, accounts, hard drives, or other devices currently in the possession or control of the State Department or otherwise that may contain responsive information; (2) request that the above named individuals confirm, under penalty of perjury, that they have produced all responsive information that was or is in their possession as a result of their employment at the State Department. If all such information has not yet been produced, the Government shall request the above named individuals produce the information forthwith; and (3) request that the above named individuals describe, under penalty of perjury, the extent to which Ms. Abedin and Ms. Mills used Mrs. Clinton's email server to conduct official government business. The Government shall inform the Court of the status of its compliance with this Order no later than August 7, 2015, including any response received from Mrs. Clinton, Ms. Abedin and Ms. Mills.

We know from the way Judge Sullivan has chipped away at the IRS and it's lies and obstruction, this is just the start. A hero for his dismissal of the indictment against Senator Ted Stevens and his appointment of a special prosecutor, Judge Sullivan is proving to be more and more like Judge John Sirica who kept asking questions until the Watergate scandal was fully exposed. Judge Sullivan also has the Freedom of Information Act suit by Judicial Watch against the IRS, about which we have often written. It's because of Judge Sullivan that more and more emails have come to light - along with exposing the lies of Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Koskinen and assorted acts of destruction of evidence. Only Wednesday of this week, Judge Sullivan dismantled counsel for the Department of Justice and the IRS for their "absurd and ridiculous" stalling tactics in revealing the emails evidencing the Lois Lerner scandal and raised the specter of holding Commissioner Koskinen in contempt. Thanks to Judge Sullivan, Judge Leon, and other Article III judges like them, the country has a chance of learning the truth. This story will only get more interesting as the fearless Emmet G. Sullivan digs deeper. Mrs. Clinton herself should be hearing that whistle blowin' now. Read more at http://observer.com/2015/08/ju...s-again/#ixzz3hYyGQSjb Follow us: @observer on Twitter | Observer on Facebook Read more at: http://tr.im/Sm32k

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Libtards will support the Hitlarybeast no matter what is proven!



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Originally posted by: crankit

Libtards will support the Hitlarybeast no matter what is proven!


The Bush administration lost several hundred thousand e-mails and there wasn't complaint one from you or our resident Righties.



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Ouch!~



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I don't really care about this email thing other than pointing out hypocrisy. Hopefully you guys are just as upset over Rick Scott breaking the law. I personally think that emails should be private, but that is me. There are laws both State and Federal that say they can't be.

Rick Scott broke law with private emails
December 9, 2014

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) - Florida Gov. Rick Scott's disclosure of nearly 200 pages of emails from a private Google account could become key evidence in an ongoing lawsuit that charges that the governor flouted the state's public records law.

The Scott administration released documents late last month that showed Scott, using a private account, exchanged emails with top aides and others on topics including vetoes, the state budget and his speeches. Scott has previously said he used a Google email account to communicate with his family and not for state business.

http://www.floridatoday.com/st...ivate-emails/20130421/
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How does she do against the Donald?

 08/03/2015 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by: Central Floridave I don't really care about this email thing other than pointing out hypocrisy. Hopefully you guys are just as upset over Rick Scott breaking the law. I personally think that emails should be private, but that is me. There are laws both State and Federal that say they can't be. Rick Scott broke law with private emails December 9, 2014 TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) - Florida Gov. Rick Scott's disclosure of nearly 200 pages of emails from a private Google account could become key evidence in an ongoing lawsuit that charges that the governor flouted the state's public records law. The Scott administration released documents late last month that showed Scott, using a private account, exchanged emails with top aides and others on topics including vetoes, the state budget and his speeches. Scott has previously said he used a Google email account to communicate with his family and not for state business. http://www.floridatoday.com/st...ivate-emails/20130421/

You are the hypocrite. If Scotts alleged wrong doing is important to you in the context of a governor in his second and last time, why would it be of no interest to you in the context of someone running for president?



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Still there, and getting better and better, , , , there is certainly a long way to go until a final "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" on it, , , , but, even some "core" Democrats are starting to get real nervous.

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None of us are too happy with the e-mail crap. It shows a lack of forethought on several fronts.

Why take on the unnecessary responsibility? If it's hacked, she is to blame, if the government servers are hacked, it's the government's issue.

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