03/28/2015 04:42 PM
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daner
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If he was, all these haters would be kissing his ass for all he has done. From resurrecting the economy, providing health care, promoting immigration, killing Bin Laden,going the extra mile to get McCain opps I mean Begdahl out of captivity, attacking ISIS without troops, imploding Putin's aspirations and Iran's nuclear strategy with sanctions. All this would be the greatest thing since sliced white bread if he was a Republican and their color. Truth
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03/29/2015 06:25 AM
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Greensleeves
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03/29/2015 04:24 PM
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crankit
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One man's opinion-
Obamanomics’ Epic Failure
Every one of these data sets are adversely affected by policies of the administration over the past six years.
The strongest component of the Federal Reserve’s Leading Economic Indicators currently is stock market performance. Such equity strength is more a case of artificial stimulation by the Federal Reserve through Quantitative Easing and the cozy relationship between Washington and Wall Street than it is a sign of a healthy economy or White House policies that have been conducive to growth. After nearly six years of President Obama’s economic policies, there is unmistakable evidence that White House policies have severely hampered economic viability.
The middle class real median household income in 2012 was less than it was at the end of the ’80s, and it’s down 9 percent from its high in 1999. The biggest portion of that decline, 8.3%, came in just the past five years.
The median net worth of a family in 2010 was $77,300, compared to $126,400 just three years earlier. In 46 of our 50 states, the poverty rates have increased over the past six years; and the national poverty rate is over 15% for the fourth year running. The last time that happened was in 1965. More and more families are dropping from the ranks of the middle class into poverty.
One of the greatest factors adversely affecting median household income and net worth is the loss of jobs and extended unemployment. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), the Participation Rate, which is represented as a ratio or a percentage of the total population, is at the lowest levels in 50 years–with about 62.8% of the population working. According to the BLS U-6 data, 13% of the population is still unemployed or underemployed–and marginally attached to the labor market.
The job situation is directly affected by administration policies and will not improve appreciably until the cost of doing business starts dropping. Last year, the Small Business Administration reported that regulation costs American business $1.75 trillion per year–and costs small businesses as much as $10,585 per employee. Just the costs of Obamacare, Financial Regulatory Reform, and new EPA regulations are projected to increase that cost per employee as much as 30%, according to Investor’s Business Daily.
In 2012, the President said, “This country doesn’t succeed when we only see the rich getting richer. We succeed when the middle class gets bigger. We grow our economy not from the top down, but from the middle out.” He was correct. But none of his policies have done what he gives such great lip service to
In spite of the president’s consternation over income inequality, the income gap has increased exponentially under Obamanomics. As MSN Money declares, “The top one percent of Americans — those earning above $366,623 a year — have taken 81 percent of the fruits of the recovery. And the top 0.01 percent — earning about $8 million a year — took an astonishing 39 percent of the growth.”
Let’s look at the economy in general. The National Bureau of Economic Research officially scored the recession as ending in June 2009, just five months after Obama’s inauguration. Historically, the nation has rebounded with significant growth coming out of a deep recession; but this has been the most tepid recovery in the last 100 years, according to Forbes. They point out: “Under President Obama, the American people have now suffered the worst 5 years since the Great Depression.”
Steve McCann of the American Thinker earlier this year wrote, “Instead what America got by year five was fewer jobs than before. Even though the employment age population has increased by nearly 12 million since January, 2008, there are now 3 million fewer Americans working, with employment declining from 146.3 million in January, 2008 to 143.3 million in December, 2012. If America enjoyed the same labor force participation rate as in 2008, the unemployment rate in December, 2012 would have been 11.4%, compared to 4.9% in December, 2007.”
The latest revision of 1st quarter GDP growth was adjusted downward to -2.9%. Another quarter of negative growth, or economic contraction, and we’ll be officially in another recession. And it will be primarily due to the policies that have restricted job growth, saddled the private sector with an average 91,000 pages of new regulation per year added to the Federal Register, and decimated the middle class.
Every one of these data sets are adversely affected by policies of the administration over the past six years. There have been precious few initiatives implemented that have facilitated free market principles in an attempt to augment economic expansion, job growth, or reduced fiscal burdens borne increasingly by the middle class. Instead, we’ve had nearly 550,000 pages of new regulation added to the Federal Register, and dozens of Executive Orders that have stymied the engine of capitalism that fuels the country.
The new Dow Jones Industrial Average record reached last week is good for investors, but belies the broad-based weakness in the general economy. With two years left of this administration that is so averse to free markets, a substantive and vibrant economic recovery will likely be elusive for the foreseeable future.
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03/30/2015 05:17 AM
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Sniper
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We should start making people line up at an office on the first day of every month to get their food stamps, in person, just so those of you who have rose colored glasses on can see what is really going on. Instead, we mail out the equivalent of credit cards, so you guys think everything is just peachy.
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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw
“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama
“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
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03/30/2015 05:52 AM
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Fish Killer
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http://www.youngcons.com/whoev...ames-is-my-new-hero-2/
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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
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03/30/2015 06:26 AM
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follydude
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Originally posted by: Sniper
We should start making people line up at an office on the first day of every month to get their food stamps, in person, just so those of you who have rose colored glasses on can see what is really going on. Instead, we mail out the equivalent of credit cards, so you guys think everything is just peachy.
... that's a great idea! People on disability, too. Then you'll see that the overwhelming majority are white folks, just like you. That may help change some stereotypes.
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03/30/2015 06:30 AM
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Tomkat
Posts: 2128
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Originally posted by: daner
This is a good list of the president's or anyone else's (Dem or Rep) Failures:
If he was, all these haters would be kissing his ass for all he has done.
From resurrecting the economy
(printing more money isn't the answer, and will actually prove to be detrimental in the coming years),
providing health care
(forcing health care on everyone and taxing those that don't participate is outstanding for the middle class who will carry this burden),
promoting immigration
(illegal immigration),
killing Bin Laden
(I applaud him or anyone that ordered the military to conduct this mission),
going the extra mile to get McCain opps I mean Begdahl out of captivity
(swapping 5 Taliban leaders for a deserter who will spend the rest of his life in prison??? Should have let him stay with his captures, opps, I mean brethren),
attacking ISIS without troops
(have we really done anything??),
imploding Putin's aspirations and Iran's nuclear strategy with sanctions
(paving a pathway for Iran to have a nuke in less than 10 years is very commendable...LOL).
All this would be the greatest thing since sliced white bread if he was a Republican and their color. Truth
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"Live each season as it passes; breathe the air, drink the drink, taste the fruit, and resign yourself to the influences of each" - Henry David Thoreau
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03/30/2015 06:38 AM
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daner
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Originally posted by: Tomkat Originally posted by: daner This is a good list of the president's or anyone else's (Dem or Rep) Failures: If he was, all these haters would be kissing his ass for all he has done. From resurrecting the economy (printing more money isn't the answer, and will actually prove to be detrimental in the coming years), providing health care (forcing health care on everyone and taxing those that don't participate is outstanding for the middle class who will carry this burden), promoting immigration (illegal immigration), killing Bin Laden (I applaud him or anyone that ordered the military to conduct this mission), going the extra mile to get McCain opps I mean Begdahl out of captivity (swapping 5 Taliban leaders for a deserter who will spend the rest of his life in prison??? Should have let him stay with his captures, opps, I mean brethren), attacking ISIS without troops (have we really done anything??), imploding Putin's aspirations and Iran's nuclear strategy with sanctions (paving a pathway for Iran to have a nuke in less than 10 years is very commendable...LOL). All this would be the greatest thing since sliced white bread if he was a Republican and their color. Truth
Thank you TomKat and Crankit for proving my point. No matter what the President does you will find a way to put a negative spin on it. If he was Republican I'm sure you would look at it differently. No matter what. It is ashame it has come to this. I'm not saying Democrats are any better. Both sides are blind to the accomplishments of the other.
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03/30/2015 06:40 AM
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johnnyboy
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So this author believes that there is a huge income gap that's getting bigger and his issue with our president is the means he is using to address it? I think it's time for this author to leave his role as a detractor and provide some ideas.
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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.
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03/30/2015 07:22 AM
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Sniper
Posts: 8759
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Originally posted by: follydude
Originally posted by: Sniper
We should start making people line up at an office on the first day of every month to get their food stamps, in person, just so those of you who have rose colored glasses on can see what is really going on. Instead, we mail out the equivalent of credit cards, so you guys think everything is just peachy.
... that's a great idea! People on disability, too. Then you'll see that the overwhelming majority are white folks, just like you. That may help change some stereotypes.
I could care less what color they are. My point is that things aren't as great as many of you would like to believe. During the Great Depression, people waited in soup lines for food. It was very obvious whether or not things were going well. The soup lines have been at record highs since Obama took office but the government has found ways to hide the visual of poverty by mailing EBT cards to the recipients.
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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw
“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama
“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
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03/30/2015 07:35 AM
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tpapablo
Posts: 44052
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Originally posted by: daner If he was, all these haters would be kissing his ass for all he has done. From resurrecting the economy, providing health care, promoting immigration, killing Bin Laden,going the extra mile to get McCain opps I mean Begdahl out of captivity, attacking ISIS without troops, imploding Putin's aspirations and Iran's nuclear strategy with sanctions. All this would be the greatest thing since sliced white bread if he was a Republican and their color. Truth
More likely that you dingbats would be trashing him for all you were worth. And for once, I would be in agreement with progs.
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03/30/2015 12:46 PM
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Tomkat
Posts: 2128
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Originally posted by: daner
Originally posted by: Tomkat Originally posted by: daner This is a good list of the president's or anyone else's (Dem or Rep) Failures: If he was, all these haters would be kissing his ass for all he has done. From resurrecting the economy (printing more money isn't the answer, and will actually prove to be detrimental in the coming years), providing health care (forcing health care on everyone and taxing those that don't participate is outstanding for the middle class who will carry this burden), promoting immigration (illegal immigration), killing Bin Laden (I applaud him or anyone that ordered the military to conduct this mission), going the extra mile to get McCain opps I mean Begdahl out of captivity (swapping 5 Taliban leaders for a deserter who will spend the rest of his life in prison??? Should have let him stay with his captures, opps, I mean brethren), attacking ISIS without troops (have we really done anything??), imploding Putin's aspirations and Iran's nuclear strategy with sanctions (paving a pathway for Iran to have a nuke in less than 10 years is very commendable...LOL). All this would be the greatest thing since sliced white bread if he was a Republican and their color. Truth
Thank you TomKat and Crankit for proving my point. No matter what the President does you will find a way to put a negative spin on it. If he was Republican I'm sure you would look at it differently. No matter what. It is ashame it has come to this. I'm not saying Democrats are any better. Both sides are blind to the accomplishments of the other.
making your point??? In case you missed, I started my post with saying: This is a good list of the president's or anyone else's (Dem or Rep) Failures:
Translation: they were bad decisions no matter who made them.
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"Live each season as it passes; breathe the air, drink the drink, taste the fruit, and resign yourself to the influences of each" - Henry David Thoreau
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03/30/2015 01:21 PM
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Zeus
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If the economy were doing so well the Federal Reserve would have raised its rate long ago. Yep, its that simple.
If there were other ways to invest your money, Wallstreet would not be doing so good. Fact is there isn't, and it is.
If the health care issues were fixed the insurance companies wouldn't be showing record profits and there would be sign of sustainability.
Promoting immigration? Hell its an open border. That's not immigration. That's being overrun.
Out of captivity? Just to throw him in leavenworth?
Yeah we're really hurting ISIS too aren't we? They're ready to give up aren't they.
He kicked a bear and pissed him off. Real smart. Putin's aspirations are only growing and the Russian people think less of the USA now then they did during the cold war. Great foreign policy, if you want to make enimies of super powers.
Iran's nuclear capability is still unknown. Very unknown. In fact we won't know until its too late. Its that transparentcy thing again.
Fact is a stooge is a stooge regardless of color or political affiliation. His color is waht got him elected. And his political affiliation is what has you and the liberal media loving him. Yep, its that simple.
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03/30/2015 01:39 PM
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daner
Posts: 7918
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Originally posted by: Zeus If the economy were doing so well the Federal Reserve would have raised its rate long ago. Yep, its that simple.
If there were other ways to invest your money, Wallstreet would not be doing so good. Fact is there isn't, and it is.
If the health care issues were fixed the insurance companies wouldn't be showing record profits and there would be sign of sustainability.
Promoting immigration? Hell its an open border. That's not immigration. That's being overrun.
Out of captivity? Just to throw him in leavenworth?
Yeah we're really hurting ISIS too aren't we? They're ready to give up aren't they.
He kicked a bear and pissed him off. Real smart. Putin's aspirations are only growing and the Russian people think less of the USA now then they did during the cold war. Great foreign policy, if you want to make enimies of super powers.
Iran's nuclear capability is still unknown. Very unknown. In fact we won't know until its too late. Its that transparentcy thing again.
Fact is a stooge is a stooge regardless of color or political affiliation. His color is waht got him elected. And his political affiliation is what has you and the liberal media loving him. Yep, its that simple.
Again negative spin from the haters. I love it when my point is proven.
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03/30/2015 02:30 PM
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Greensleeves
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Did you hear? Oil prices, violent crime, and unemployment down. Housing purchases and graduation rates up. Saudi's and Iran trying to exterminate ISIS, Bergdahl charged, and Bill O'lielly still on the air. Darn that Obama!
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03/30/2015 02:34 PM
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Cole
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Simple question: What was the economy like when the last republican president left office?
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03/30/2015 03:34 PM
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tpapablo
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Originally posted by: Cole Simple question: What was the economy like when the last republican president left office?
Meaningless. The economy under this dork has been the worst since the depression. I don't think any of the people suffering will take any solace from the fact that it is better now than on one, particular day under Bush. The undeniable fact is that less people are working now than when Bush was president.
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03/30/2015 03:44 PM
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Greensleeves
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"less people are working now than when Bush was president"
Oh that's right, Tea Partiers won't be happy until every last American (to include children) is toiling in drudgery for Wall Street financial masters and social security receiving socialist scum bags!
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03/30/2015 03:45 PM
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Cole
Posts: 68444
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Originally posted by: tpapablo
Originally posted by: Cole Simple question: What was the economy like when the last republican president left office?
Meaningless. The economy under this dork has been the worst since the depression. I don't think any of the people suffering will take any solace from the fact that it is better now than on one, particular day under Bush. The undeniable fact is that less people are working now than when Bush was president.
But those who lost their jobs did so due to Bush's failed policy.
Obama is picking up the pieces on his own, just imagine how fast things would improve if republicans gave a shit about working people.
Silly statements like this -
The economy under this dork has been the worst since the depression.
- seriously brings your intelligence into question.
Once again, are you sure you are a lawyer?
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04/01/2015 09:52 AM
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Pagerow
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"Obama will be the worst thing for America, and he will destroy us!..."
That was the line we were all given at least a year (or two) before he ever took office.
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