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 03/19/2015 02:59 PM
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WG

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eratz israel
it's in the tora



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 03/19/2015 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by: worksuxgetsponsered

But a black man named Obama has been elected twice, so it's obvious that all election aren't equal.



Hispanics and women vote in presidential election, how does the republican party look to them?





I think I misunderstood what you were saying, because bibi had nothing to do with Obama winning the elections or how republicans are viewed by minorities and women.



edit: What did Obama's race have to do with ANYTHING we were discussing?



And Israel's policy of colonizing the West Bank will continue to alienate anyone with any sense of fairness.




Agreed. I also hope they will give on the Palestinian state.


I was replying to this statement:

"are you sure about that? the last election cycle in the US that I remember, republicans pretty much cleaned house."

It is normal for republicans to clean house in non presidential year.

Just as it is normal for Democrats to do well in presidential years.




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 03/19/2015 06:22 PM
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Wookie read resolution 242 then get back with us mr mainstream

 03/19/2015 06:48 PM
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It is normal for republicans to clean house in non presidential year.

Just as it is normal for Democrats to do well in presidential years.


there always an ebb and flow in politics. I misunderstood your original point, but get it now; his speech before congress was polarizing for congress, but as far as the average joe, their opinion was probably based on what their preferred new outlet told them to think.

I didn't have a problem with it as much as some, but I understand why Obama was pretty pissed. I wonder how much influence it had on the election in Israel.

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 03/21/2015 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by: Wookie

The West Bank is an occupied territory with Israel as the ruling power.  The international consenus is that it should become a Palestinian State.




Go ahead and find something that says the West Bank is part of the nation of Israel that has significant international support.




You can't.  Because you are way, way out of the mainstream.



Hey, if the terrorists quit trying to kill Israelis they would leave the Palestinians alone. There are many Palestinians, arabs and muslims living in Israel that do not believe in what the terrorists are doing. By the way, Mainstream doesn't change fact. .
 03/21/2015 08:26 PM
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Fact:  Occupied territory is not part of a sovereign nation.

It is, quite literally, a territory in dispute.



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 03/22/2015 05:17 AM
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242
1967 borders.

yes, read it cheater.
Israel is in violation of it.



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 03/22/2015 10:36 AM
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Israel colonizes Arab territory, which causes uproar in the Muslim world, this uproar creates more terrorists and in the long run increases terror attacks. How many American lives have been lost due to this issue? Hundreds...perhaps thousands?

Not to mention the fact that Israel won't even admit that they are nuclear capable, yet do everything in their power to suppress the nuclear capability of their neighbors?

With allies like Israel, do we really need enemies?


http://www.theguardian.com/wor...ecret-nuclear-arsenal


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 03/22/2015 03:24 PM
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One moe time bro read 242 you will be set free

 03/22/2015 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by: WG 242 1967 borders. yes, read it cheater. Israel is in violation of it.
specifics will set you free  hamas is in violation of 242 not Israel. Defensible borders is the language my friend

 03/23/2015 04:45 AM
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Yes, both are in violation, the occupied and the occupiers.

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 03/23/2015 05:18 AM
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Originally posted by: cheaterfiveo

One moe time bro read 242 you will be set free



Can you point to the law, legislation or whatever policy allows Israel to colonize occupied territory?



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 03/23/2015 05:41 AM
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Here is a list of why it's deemed illegal by most of the modern world.

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/O...ternational-law-336507

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 03/23/2015 08:11 AM
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BleaterSoOver has no argument which is why he keeps pointing to something that is irrelevant.



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 03/23/2015 02:45 PM
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cheaterfiveo

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Its a shame you cannot read yes parrots cannot read ,roger?
 03/23/2015 05:57 PM
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Israel has broken or ignored a few dozen UN resolutions, yet a tiny section of 242 allows them to do as they wish?

How is the fishing in Lala Land?

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 03/23/2015 05:59 PM
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Better than in ostrich land
 03/24/2015 02:47 PM
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The ownership of the 'occupied territories' are not in dispute - they are NOT Israel and are in fact Palestine.

WE pay Israel's lobbyists do a fine job blurring the line in the sand - but for everyone else in the world - there is no 'blurred line'..

All of the existing 'settlements' in the 'territories' are 1000% ILLEGAL - and need to be turned over to the Palestinians as reparations for the BS that Israel has put them though..

Are you ready to give the Native American Indians back all of their native lands because they were there centuries before we were?

Israel hold's no 'trump card' there because they were there many (many) centuries ago..

They need to either do the '2 state' solution and get their (100%) 'Israel' State (minus the territories), or stop their Apartheid policies and  accept a mixed state and give Palestinians their deserved full 100% equal rights..

I wonder how we would react if we were 'occupied'

I wonder how we would react if one of our Allies were 'occupied'and had no weapons or military to fight back??

Would we consider our allies 'freedom fighters' - or 'terrorists'...

Is there a 'double standard' going on here?



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