Celtic Woman


Willie

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Ask Jesus Christ.

He's the only one who can help you!@

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

he needs more help than that...take it to the limit OVER IN THE MUSIC SECTION one more time

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Water dissolving...and water removing
There is water at the bottom of the ocean

These are about more than just Music Bob.
About helping brother Fish Killer find his way to Jesus.
He needs it so badly.


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

These are about more than just Music Bob.
About helping brother Fish Killer find his way to Jesus.
He needs it so badly.


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Jesus Christ?

....As in The Messiah?

I'll be waiting for an answer.



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

As in God.

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

As in the Messiah.

What Jesus Christ claims to be.

You know...the Jesus that you deny.

The one that is in fact God the Messiah.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

I don't deny him.
You can call God anything you want
I don't care.

Jah
Allah
Jesus.

Just call him.
He can wash this hate from your soul.

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Yes you do deny Him!

Is Jesus Christ the Messiah or not?

Lets have an answer WG!

Liar!

Fraud!

(If He's NOT the Messiah then He's just a man and has NO authority to grant you ANYTHING let alone 'grace')

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

No, I personally, and pretty much all Jews, do not believe that the Jesus Christ who lived 2000 years ago was the Jewish Messiah, because the changes that the Jewish Messiah was supposed to bring into this world have not happened. That is pretty standard Judaism 101. I believe at least that much of it.
No, I don't pray to Jesus, I pray only to God. I don't use the "Jesus" name for him. It doesn't work for me.

But what I believe, how I pray should not matter so much to you. You don't claim to be Jewish, you claim to be a Christian. For you, Jesus was the Messiah, for you he is God.
(or at least 1/3 of God, I still don't get how y'all dance around the Christianity as monotheism label with that bit)

So you should pray to Jesus. God will hear you. He will enter your heart. He isn't picky about names, he knows when you are really asking for his forgiveness.

And then you won't be such an asshole.



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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

This isn't about me...it's about YOU!

It's about YOUR claim of 'grace' delivered to YOU from Jesus.

Do you want me to post your claim AGAIN?

You know...from the Jesus who is NOT the Messiah but YOU claim has the power to grant you 'grace'!

You're a LIAR of the highest order!

You're a PHONY!

You're a FRAUD!

You're daddy's Satan!

Fool!



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Yes, please do repost it.
Exactly as I posted it, not perverted as you have shown no shame about doing.

I'm interested in finding out exactly what it was that I said that set you off so.

I claimed to receive Grace from God.
As I have. Do. Just by asking.
Your doubt doesn't change that for me.

If I used the name "Jesus" once or twice to refer to God, then that was for your benefit, in an attempt at getting through to you.
It's a perfectly valid name, millions of humans reach God that way.
So sad that you still can not.



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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Bull Crap!

Jesus Christ is fully the Christian God...as in 1/3 of the God Head.

Your 'god' and the Christian God are NOT the same thing!

Never has been and never will be!

You make a claim of grace from God yet your god has no grace to offer you.

You claimed grace from Jesus (God 0f the Christians) yet you deny Him!.

We have been over this aud nauseum.....and every step of the way you were called on your lies, deceit, denial and fraud.

FRAUD!



Definition of fraud (n)

Bing Dictionary
fraud
[ frawd ]
2.somebody who deceives: somebody who deliberately deceives somebody else.



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/20/2014 at 01:11 PM by Fish Killer

What I mean by grace:

God loves us, forgives us.

I mean nothing more than that.
Have claimed nothing more than that.
There is nothing "not Jewish" about that.
Christians hold no monopoly on Gods Grace.

But you somehow need to deny even this simple truth.
That is why I think you really don't know it.



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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Bull Crap!

"Do Jewish people believe in the concept of grace in a religious sense?

It's a good question because it gets to a fundamental difference between Judaism and Christianity. In Christianity, all are tainted by original sin and all are sinners. Even thinking about a sin, Jesus said, was the same as actually doing it. Furthermore, all sin is rejection of God and thus each sin is, in the eyes of God, equally bad. Traditional Christian dogma says, therefore, that we are all sinners, none righteous and all equally deserving of Hell. This life exists, basically, to determine where we go in the next and none of us are going to the good place without salvation.

None of this is part of the Jewish faith. As for the afterlife, most Jews believe there is one but people don't know much about it and basically you get what you deserve. The goal isn't to gain the desired afterlife, it's to live this life well, be a good person, follow G-d's rules as best you can and leave the world a better place."

FRAUD!



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Trying to tell me what I think, how to be Jewish?
That's funny, coming from you.

Did I ever say anything about the afterlife?
(I don't even really believe in it)

OK, maybe this will be a hint for you.
Maybe you are confusing "Salvation by Grace" with just the simple idea of Gods Grace.
I'm claiming the latter, perhaps you are fixated on the former.

Does that help?



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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Nope...I am not confusing anything!

Jews do not have any form of grace...period!

It doesn't exist for a Jew!

Fact!

No amount of claiming it or lying about it or wordsmithing your way through it will fly!

You're a FRAUD!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

I know Gods Love & forgiveness
That has little to do with being a Jew, a Christian or anything other label you want to apply

Try it sometime.



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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

q]Originally posted by: Fish Killer





Nope!



Your jewish god is NOT in any way shape or form the Christian Triune God!



Fact!