"Because Republican politicians are widely more interested in sabotaging Obamacare than in providing health insurance to low-income families, there are still 24 states that have rejected the law's expansion of Medicaid, which is of course almost entirely paid for by the federal government. In a recent report, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and Urban Institute found that those lawmakers are leaving a total of $423.6 billion on the table over the next 10 years. At the New Republic, Jonathan Cohn maps out all that forsaken cash. Florida is missing out on the most, forgoing a total of $66.1 billion, followed by Texas, which is turning down $65.1 billion. This is a picture of states where elected officials have chosen to cut off their noses in order to spite their faces."



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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

There is no free lunch. 

Besides, isn't it the global warming cultists who are always saying that we should be an example for others? 

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I :heart; Q

This is just politics, not science.
The "cult" of science will live as long as does reason.
This round of Republican obstructionism will lose it's primary reason for existence in about 2 more years.

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

How is it Free money? We are trillions (alot of zeroes) in debt. Fact is the Feds were paying for a year or two; then stick it to the states to cover their insurance party. NOthing for NOthing.

read it

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

I other news:
States Have Large Amounts of Insane People Who Believe in 'Free Money'

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

read it

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Deliberately trying to deny healthcare to Americans is nothing to proud of.


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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

If you are a conservative, fiscal responsibility is something to be proud of, as is having the money to pay for the things you buy.

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I :heart; Q

that's funny


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Conservatives have never practiced fiscal responsibility. They have no authority on the subject.

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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

For fiscal responsibility, limit Medicare spending to what the Medicare tax takes in.  The system takes a lot of money from general revenues/borrowing.

Not having the poor use emergency services for the common cold is the fiscally responsible thing to do.

Being treated before it becomes an emergency is another good idea.

Florida and Texas have the highest rates of uninsured, that's sure something to be proud of...



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I was right.

Before this debacle hospitals had sick people who could not and would not pay for services; this has not changed. Now productive people pay for unproductive people. Hey genius they could never turn people away before clowncare.

People are using emergency service more than ever now. So much for that argument.

I am proud that Florida has a high rate of uninsured. That means people are free to choose (recognize that phrase?).

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I :heart; Q

"There are less visible costs tied to this expansion that make it a far less appealing deal than it would appear at first glance. For example, people who were eligible for Medicaid before the Affordable Care Act, but not enrolled, would be drawn to enroll as they try to comply with the individual mandate, something experts refer to as "the woodwork effect." States would not receive the increased federal match rate for those previously eligible enrollees. The costs of these new enrollees will be covered under the traditional match rate, meaning that states will be liable for as much as 30-45 percent of the increased costs.

As a result, the Medicaid expansion would cost states such as New York as much as $52 billion over 10 years. Taxpayers in states as diverse as Florida and Kansas could be hit with $20 billion in new taxes by 2022."



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Romans 8;18-32 John 3;16-18

Citation?  Righties rarely include those. 

I like the above one "the Medicaid expansion would cost states such as New York as much as $52 billion over 10 years"

New York did expand medicaid.  You have any real figures? 

Yes, they are using it because nothing has changed in the states they live in.

Like I said, many of the states have more uninsured than ever.

Children without medical care, is that a Republican mantra?



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I was right.

Incorrect. The study looked at states that foolishly bought into this monstrosity.

And, yes, we want children to die. That is in our platform.

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I :heart; Q

Ummmm....MORON....you do know that Obamacare is available to ALL of them right?

If Obamacare was such a good deal for them and it is all that you claim it is then why exactly is there so many uninsured to this date (your claim)?

Come on IQ89...you have had Obama shove Obamacare down our throats...and it hasn't done ONE thing it was touted to do!

NOT ONE!

Medicaid:
"Conservatives who object to the Medicaid expansion argue it's a budget-buster because, while Washington foots most of the bill, states still have to pay some of it. According to the Urban Institute report, it would cost all 24 states $31 billion in 10 years if they decided to participate
"


Where does one just come up with 31 BILLION dollars?

On top of that the Fed pays the rest but that isn't the FED...It's us tax payers!

That's right...OUR WALLETS!~



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 08/20/2014 at 07:17 AM by Fish Killer