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Topic Title: Solar vrs Dirty Coal Topic Summary: Created On: 07/29/2014 07:25 AM |
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07/29/2014 07:25 AM
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Solar vs "dirt" coal
Interesting article from a small town newspaper in heart of coal country. |
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07/29/2014 08:06 AM
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I have to pay for those freeloading jerks who go with solar. I don't with people relying on coal. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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07/29/2014 08:59 AM
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your taxes subsidize billions in fossil fuels also.
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07/29/2014 09:00 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C..._electricity_by_source
A 2010 study by Global Subsidies Initiative compared global relative subsidies of different energy sources. Results show that fossil fuels receive 0.8 US cents per kWh of energy they produce (although it should be noted that the estimate of fossil fuel subsidies applies only to consumer subsidies and only within non-OECD countries), nuclear energy receives 1.7 cents / kWh, renewable energy (excluding hydroelectricity) receives 5.0 cents / kWh and biofuels receive 5.1 cents / kWh in subsidies.[9] ------------------------- Romans 8;18-32 John 3;16-18 |
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07/29/2014 10:15 AM
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No they don't. Quite the contrary. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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07/29/2014 10:35 AM
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Look at these idiots. Basically, when we install these things, we are paying people to dig holes and fill them back in. These idiots - http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/07/29/Twelve-Useless-Wind-Turbines ------------------------- I :heart; Q Edited: 07/29/2014 at 11:36 AM by tpapablo |
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07/29/2014 11:11 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C..._electricity_by_source A 2010 study by Global Subsidies Initiative compared global relative subsidies of different energy sources. Results show that fossil fuels receive 0.8 US cents per kWh of energy they produce (although it should be noted that the estimate of fossil fuel subsidies applies only to consumer subsidies and only within non-OECD countries), nuclear energy receives 1.7 cents / kWh, renewable energy (excluding hydroelectricity) receives 5.0 cents / kWh and biofuels receive 5.1 cents / kWh in subsidies.[9] its easy to pick and choose wiki articles. Energy Subsidies |
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07/29/2014 12:31 PM
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However, many of the "subsidies" available to the oil and gas industries are general business opportunity credits, available to all US businesses (particularly, the foreign tax credit mentioned above).
------------------------- Romans 8;18-32 John 3;16-18 |
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07/29/2014 01:18 PM
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I love my free loading jerk electric bill each month, $18.03 (fees) plus the credits I'm racking up cause the installer accidently installed 3 extra panels, gave me a deal. Electric car may be in my future.
------------------------- Ah, religion, bigotry dressed up as morality. |
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07/29/2014 02:03 PM
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.... and, we pay a shitload of taxes on fuels of all kinds. Don't forget that little tid bit.
You buy solar for your home, you only pay sales tax and you get a break on your yearly taxes. |
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07/30/2014 07:44 AM
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Havana, do you mind sharing your inial instal cost? Co-worker in NJ installed a large system and it ran 70K, he got some back from the Gov about 20K rebates but still has 40K+ invested, He figured out it would take 15-20 yrs to break even. 15-20 yrs? in FL salt corosion and windstorm damage would seem to cause the return on solar to be upside down. I do not think panels will last 20 yrs with littlte to no maintancene in FL. In other areas such as AZ, inland TX, etc. I could see the cost return value being better.
Would be nice to have on a vaccation home only used in winter, sell alll the power back inthe summer months to pay for a boat and slip in Marina Del Rey, CA. Return home in winter. |
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07/30/2014 08:10 AM
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^^^what he said!^^^
------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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07/30/2014 08:51 AM
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Maybe rolling the dice on wind. They should be engineered to handle regular events. Less windy here on average than in TX or OK. Just have to weather a hurricane once every so often. Relative risk would depend on expected return interval on storms in engineering. Like I said, rolling the dice. Regarding salt, you don't have to move very far inland to get into a low-corrosion environment. ------------------------- ... |
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07/30/2014 10:11 AM
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Move inland? What?
------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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07/30/2014 11:49 AM
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for 7.42 kW, 28 - 265Kw panels, the total cost was 26k, I paid 7k, I got a rebate from TECO of $2/Kw and the cost was $3.64. Then I got the 30% fed credit. I live in Tampa so no salt issue. each panel has its own micro inverter. All stasinless railing and bolts, The company enphase's web site allows me to monitor the system web based. at my costs and power useage my payback is 5.2 years.
------------------------- Ah, religion, bigotry dressed up as morality. |
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07/30/2014 01:27 PM
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You must have about an $80 per month electric usage in the summer to have a need of only 7.42 kw. Do you ever run AC?
------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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