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Topic Title: Australia has intelligent leadership.
Topic Summary: Repeals carbon tax.
Created On: 07/17/2014 10:29 AM
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tpapablo

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Too bad that we are saddled with the dumbest leader in the world.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/07/17/Australia-repeals-its-hated-carbon-tax



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Only libtards with Al Gore intelligence level think it is a good idea!

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 07/17/2014 11:25 AM
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...and breitbart has 'intelligent' subscribers.
 07/17/2014 11:30 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover

...and breitbart has 'intelligent' subscribers.


Yes in fact they do:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/201...bon-tax-repeal/5603830

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...most likely running TTS, and vice versa
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Australia is the Alabama of the former British Empire.

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck Australia is the Alabama of the former British Empire.

They are smart enough to elect an intelligent PM. We can't say the same.



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Maybe just maybe you should go there to stay.. No worries mate .
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3rdworldlover

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After erecting Bush, twice,
nobody cares what we say.
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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover After erecting Bush, twice, nobody cares what we say.

A certain worthless wanker successor promised he would restore our standing in the world. As with everything the smelly turd promised, he failed miserably. Even our allies despise us now.



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Yeah! And they also have one of the strictest gun control policies in a 1st world country. And guess what? It worked!

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Originally posted by: eibla

Yeah! And they also have one of the strictest gun control policies in a 1st world country. And guess what? It worked!


Liar!

"In 2006, the lack of a measurable effect from the 1996 firearms legislation was reported in the British Journal of Criminology. Using ARIMA analysis, Dr Jeanine Baker (a former state president of the Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia(SA)) and Dr Samara McPhedran (Women in Shooting and Hunting) found no evidence for an impact of the laws on homicide.[39]

Weatherburn described the Baker & McPhedran article as "reputable" and "well-conducted" and stated that the available data are insufficient to draw stronger conclusions.[40] Weatherburn noted the importance of actively policing illegal firearm trafficking and argued that there was little evidence that the new laws had helped in this regard.[41]

A study co-authored by Simon Chapman found declines in firearm?related deaths before the law reforms accelerated after the reforms for total firearm deaths (p=0.04), firearm suicides (p=0.007) and firearm homicides (p=0.15), but not for the smallest category of unintentional firearm deaths, which increased.[42]

Subsequently, a study by McPhedran and Baker compared the incidence of mass shootings in Australian and New Zealand. Data were standardised to a rate per 100,000 people, to control for differences in population size between the countries and mass shootings before and after 1996/1997 were compared between countries. That study found that in the period 1980 - 1996, both countries experienced mass shootings. The rate did not differ significantly between countries. Since 1996/1997, neither country has experienced a mass shooting event despite the continued availability of semi-automatic longarms in New Zealand. The authors conclude that "the hypothesis that Australia's prohibition of certain types of firearms explains the absence of mass shootings in that country since 1996 does not appear to be supported... if civilian access to certain types of firearms explained the occurrence of mass shootings in Australia (and conversely, if prohibiting such firearms explains the absence of mass shootings), then New Zealand (a country that still allows the ownership of such firearms) would have continued to experience mass shooting events."[43]

In 2009 a paper from the Australian Institute for Suicide Research and Prevention at Griffith University concluded:


The implemented restrictions may not be responsible for the observed reductions in firearms suicide. Data suggest that a change in social and cultural attitudes could have contributed to the shift in method preference.[44]

A 2010 study on the effects of the firearm buybacks by Wang-Sheng Lee and Sandy Suardi of The Melbourne Institute of Applied Economic and Social Research at the University of Melbourne studied the data and concluded, "Despite the fact that several researchers using the same data have examined the impact of the NFA on firearm deaths, a consensus does not appear to have been reached. In this paper, we re-analyze the same data on firearm deaths used in previous research, using tests for unknown structural breaks as a means to identifying impacts of the NFA. The results of these tests suggest that the NFA did not have any large effects on reducing firearm homicide or suicide rates."[45]
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Horsesh!t...as usual.

"So what have the Australian laws actually done for homicide and suicide rates? Howard cites a study (pdf) by Andrew Leigh of Australian National University and Christine Neill of Wilfrid Laurier University finding that the firearm homicide rate fell by 59 percent, and the firearm suicide rate fell by 65 percent, in the decade after the law was introduced, without a parallel increase in non-firearm homicides and suicides. That provides strong circumstantial evidence for the law's effectiveness."

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Originally posted by: eibla

Horsesh!t...as usual.



"So what have the Australian laws actually done for homicide and suicide rates? Howard cites a study (pdf) by Andrew Leigh of Australian National University and Christine Neill of Wilfrid Laurier University finding that the firearm homicide rate fell by 59 percent, and the firearm suicide rate fell by 65 percent, in the decade after the law was introduced, without a parallel increase in non-firearm homicides and suicides. That provides strong circumstantial evidence for the law's effectiveness."


You should have read the ENTIRE article MORON!

"Other studies are more hesitant to draw conclusions about homicides, but generally agree that the law did a lot to reduce suicides. A study from Jeanine Baker of the Sporting Shooters Association of Australia and Samara McPhedran, then of the University of Sydney, concluded (pdf) that suicide rates declined more rapidly after the law's enactment, but found no significant result for homicides; Leigh and Neill argue (pdf) that this paper's methodology is deeply flawed, as it includes the possibility that fewer than one death a year could occur. David Hemenway at the Harvard School of Public Health noted (pdf) that the Baker and McPhedran method would find that the law didn't have a significant effect if there had been zero gun deaths in the year 2004, or if there weren't negative deaths later on. The authors, he concluded, "should know better."

Another paper (pdf) by Wang-Sheng Lee and Sandy Suardi, looks at the firearm death rates in Australia over time and found no "structural breaks" associated with the law. But Leigh and Neill note that, because of the large number of factors affecting gun violences, real changes due to the law could potentially not show up as "breaks."
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eibla

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Naw...just the typical horsesh!t you usually spew.

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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: eibla

Naw...just the typical horsesh!t I usually spew.


Yep...and don'r read either!

Yellow striped prog no show MORON!



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eibla

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^^^^ Yet ANOTHER article from "Jackass Magazine". Ever wonder how many mass shootings the Aussies have undergone since their tightening of the gun laws? Exactly ZERO! Conservos live in fear...it's pretty much the only logical reason they think the the way they do.

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 07/17/2014 04:27 PM
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What percentage of total shootings are actually mass shootings?

What percentage of mass shootings are committed by people with mental illness?

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eibla

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In Australia the percentage of Mass shootings is Zero (since 1996) Not sure in the USA...but Australia has laws in place that make it MUCH ore difficult for a person with mental illness to acquire a firearm (if at all). Are you trying to argue that mass shootings in the USA (Since Columbine) would have happened anyway if it was extremely difficult to get high capacity semi automatic weapons? Or are you saying the mass shootings in the US are such a low percentage that we can afford that kind of collateral damage because our "2nd Amendment rights" are more important than trying to stem mass shooting deaths and injury?

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