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Homeless activist Ted Hayes, who has lived in L.A. for three decades, opposes the idea, insisting there are American kids on city streets who need help first.

“It’s kind of a slap in the face to U.S. citizens,” Hayes said. “It’s embarrassing. It’s hurtful. Because it’s like a father saying that he loves children outside of the family more than he loves his own.”

“We feel for them,” Hayes continued. “We feel their pain. But we are feeling pain of our own children first.”

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/07/15/garcetti-convening-with-non-profits-to-shelter-undocumented-children-in-la/

And as much as it pains me to say that I agree with a prog, this guy is right - this asshole administration is treating criminals from other countries better than we do our own citizens. Something is wrong with that.



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 07/16/2014 12:18 PM
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 07/16/2014 12:59 PM
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A smart leader would keep the claimed maladies on their side of the border with whatever was necessary; not having to deal with it on our side. But......

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I did arm myself with knowledge. Homeless progs are complaining that criminal non-citzens are getting treated better than they are. And, that is quite true.



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report says
Catherine Herridge

By Catherine Herridge
Published July 16, 2014
FoxNews.com
12.8K

A new intelligence assessment concludes that misperceptions about U.S. immigration policy - and not Central American violence - are fueling the surge of thousands of children illegally crossing the Mexican border.

The 10-page July 7 report was issued by the El Paso Intelligence Center (EPIC), which according to the Justice Department website is led by the DEA and incorporates Homeland Security. Its focus is on the collection and distribution of tactical intelligence, information which can immediately be acted on by law enforcement.

"Of the 230 migrants interviewed, 219 cited the primary reason for migrating to the United States was the perception of U.S. immigration laws granting free passes or permisos to UAC (unaccompanied children) and adult females OTMs (other than Mexicans) traveling with minors," the report said.

Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, R-Fla., told reporters Tuesday, "It's a critical situation and if we don't deal with it urgently but well- done right- then we're facing a crisis of just huge proportions."

Diaz-Balart, who along with other lawmakers just visited Central America, described how human smugglers -- known as coyotes - are exploiting perceived changes to U.S. immigration law after the Obama administration decided in 2012 to practice prosecutorial discretion in cases where individuals were brought into the U.S. illegally as minors.

"The violence isn't new. The situation in those countries is not new," Diaz-Balart said. "These cartels have seen a weakness in the system. They've seen statements coming from the administration that they have used in order to just frankly increase the number of people coming over.

"Remember this is not a five-year-old or an 11-year-old can't just walk over the border and get to the United States. These are organized coyotes doing this."

The intelligence assessment, which is unclassified but not meant to go beyond law enforcement, also cited data from the United Nations office on Drugs and Crime Statistics saying despite an explosion in the number of illegal minors, crime data for Central America actually showed a dip in violence.

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 07/17/2014 03:52 AM
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Those sad YMCA kids on that bus.... This is not compassion! Dork.

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 07/17/2014 09:06 AM
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The stupidity of "outraged" conservo's knows no bounds. They get all wound up by wacky righty media attention getters and stop a bus full of American kids going to a day camp. Can't make that up! Idiots! Benghazi fell flat on it's ass so they make up some other outrage.

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Originally posted by: eibla

The stupidity of "outraged" conservo's knows no bounds. They get all wound up by wacky righty media attention getters and stop a bus full of American kids going to a day camp. Can't make that up! Idiots! Benghazi fell flat on it's ass so they make up some other outrage.


How about the hundreds of busses running in the night to different cities as we speak?

Your ignorance knows no bounds!

Moron!

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/02/...t-transfers/index.html

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 07/17/2014 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by: eibla The stupidity of "outraged" conservo's knows no bounds. They get all wound up by wacky righty media attention getters and stop a bus full of American kids going to a day camp. Can't make that up! Idiots! Benghazi fell flat on it's ass so they make up some other outrage.

It's not "conservos." It is everyone but fool progs.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/july_2014/most_voters_want_to_send_latest_illegal_immigrants_home_asap



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You conservos are incredible. "Our country is being over run by {{gasp}} CHILDREN.!!" What the F*ck is the matter with you people!? Afraid about one tenth of one cent of your income tax is being used to process these kids? What's your answer to it? Load em all up on an empty oil tanker and toss em overboard as it cruises down the coast of central America? You have no answers, just artificial outrage and a dead soul.

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Originally posted by: eibla

You conservos are incredible. "Our country is being over run by {{gasp}} CHILDREN.!!"


Can you grasp the term ILLEGAL ALIEN?

Do you even have an INKLING of what that term means?

Obviously not!



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So what if they are! They're freaking CHILDREN numbnuts! And all asswipes like you want to do with 'em is send 'em back. Not MY problem. And this after your GOP president opened the door for this kind of stuff to happen. How do you sleep at night after you say your prayers to Jesus? You claim to be a CHristian? Horseshit!! When your day comes HE will remember.

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 07/17/2014 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by: eibla

So what if they are! They're freaking CHILDREN .


SOOOOO.....NO NUTS....by you wanting to allow the border to stay open because of the 'children'....we now get ANYONE....including terrorists to walk right into our country and kill rape and rob whoever they want to!

Why aren't you wanting to take care of the poor homeless children right here right now....you know....the LEGAL ones?

Why isn't your outrage for closure of the border?

Where is your outrage for the murdered and raped?

Your sympathy isn't for the 'children'...it's for the 'DEVIL'!

Fact!

http://www.breitbart.com/Breit...r-Kidnapping-in-Texas

http://www.tpnn.com/2014/07/14...times-he-was-deported/

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Try to convince Jesus of that when you meet him when your days are done. My guess is your "Illegal Aliens" claim is gonna get laughed at. And of course your wrong...it's not ANYONE...it's children from Canada and Mexico that are banned. (Thank GW Bush not Obama for that one FK). Not providing children with a bed and food? Jesus LOVES that!

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 07/17/2014 04:59 PM
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An Illigal walked across the border in JUNE, with 2 children...

He was arrested this week, 3 weeks into his new accomadations for a TRIPLE MURDER... it is not known if the 2 CHILDREN he MURDERED are the same 2 chilgren he walked across the border with 3 weeks ago.... The Lady an AMERICAJN citizen and his relationship with her, if any is not known at this time...



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Originally posted by: eibla

Try to convince Jesus of that when you meet him when your days are done. My guess is your "Illegal Aliens" claim is gonna get laughed at. And of course your wrong...it's not ANYONE...it's children from Canada and Mexico that are banned. (Thank GW Bush not Obama for that one FK). Not providing children with a bed and food? Jesus LOVES that!


You don't have a CLUE what Jesus saus or thinks!

You should READ his words some time as you are SO wrong it makes me want to PUKE#!

This has NOTHING to do with compassion...it has to do with the LAW!

Matthew 18:6 ESV

"But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.
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Like I said Jesus broke NO laws...none!

He was without sin!

What part of that don't you understand?

Pilate said he found "no fault" in Jesus. So did Herod.

The Jewish leaders said that he deserved to die for claiming to be the son of God. But, he had cured the leprosy which was the sign that he was God.

Jesus did not even break the Pharisaical laws (either spirit or letter of the law)

Right now YOU are trying to teach other CHILDREN to break the law!


I would be very careful if I were you!

Jesus is going to remember this very paragraph when he sees YOU!

He's going to quote it!

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Save your breath...tell it to Jesus. Yeah...I guess they're breaking the I'm hungry law. Better read up on your Scripture there Saint FK, Jesus broke a bunch of Roman laws. You realize your a Sociopath right?

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 07/17/2014 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by: eibla

Jesus broke a bunch of Roman laws.


No...he didn't!

Had he broke any ROMAN laws Pilate and Herrod would have found him guilty at his TRIALS!

Both said he broke no laws.

Both clearly said that.

Liar!

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Oh please....Jesus performed all kinds of acts of Civil disobedience. The scene in the Temple for one. Hell, even after he rose from the dead he was out stirring up the apostles to commit even further acts of Civil disobedience. You have no idea how idiotic you appear do you?

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Originally posted by: eibla

Oh please....Jesus performed all kinds of acts of Civil disobedience. The scene in the Temple for one. Hell, even after he rose from the dead he was out stirring up the apostles to commit even further acts of Civil disobedience. You have no idea how idiotic you appear do you?


He broke no law in the temple!

Which one?

PROVE that he broke a LAW!

What law did he break?

Name it...and his arrest and conviction!

Your words and innuendo wont do!

PROVE IT!

Your witness isn't crap...you weren't there!

Even the soldier at Jesus crucifixion said "this man has done nothing wrong."

So lets see...Herod Antipas said he broke no law....Pontius Pilate said he broke no law....the Roman Soldier at his crucifixion said he had done nothing wrong....

You're a MORON!

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Edited: 07/17/2014 at 09:15 PM by Fish Killer
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