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Topic Title: e-mails reveal extent of obamas deal
Topic Summary: with industry on health care
Created On: 06/09/2012 05:11 AM
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 06/09/2012 05:11 AM
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e-mails reveal extent of obamas deal with industry on health care
After weeks of talks, drug industry lobbyists were growing nervous. To cut a deal with the White House on overhauling health care, they needed to be sure that President Obama would stop a proposal intended to bring down medicine prices.

On June 3, 2009, one of the lobbyists e-mailed Nancy-Ann DeParle, the president's health care adviser. Ms. DeParle reassured the lobbyist. Although Mr. Obama was overseas, she wrote, she and other top officials had "made decision, based on how constructive you guys have been, to oppose importation" on a different proposal.

Just like that, Mr. Obama's staff signaled a willingness to put aside support for the reimportation of prescription medicines at lower prices and by doing so solidified a compact with an industry the president had vilified on the campaign trail. Central to Mr. Obama's drive to remake the nation's health care system was an unlikely collaboration with the pharmaceutical industry that forced unappealing trade-offs.
 06/09/2012 11:00 AM
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and that's 1 of the reasons why he sucks.  And yet the Repugnicans don't mention it or gitmo or killing under age citizens without due process.  They have no problem spewing lies.  I guess as long as he's helping their masters,  then he's an American born white man.



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 06/09/2012 12:10 PM
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One of the biggest problems with healthcare in the US is the Big drug companies. 1/3 of the payouts of medicare drug money goes for mood altering drugs. Once again big money doing what it takes to make bigger money. And the people lose again.



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 06/09/2012 12:38 PM
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Someday, just maybe, the blinded pack will see what a sleaze Obama is, how he's as low as the lowest. Cheaper drugs are available, yet he'll work to keep them from the American people just to protect the profits of Big Pharma. A smart man would wonder how else he's selling out America to benefit himself and his cronies.

It can only get worse, Let's hope the smart people realize this and vote to end the reign of this corrupt abba-dabba.



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 06/09/2012 02:06 PM
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Would anyone claim he's simply protecting American jobs?

A bit over-selectively, perhaps?


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 06/09/2012 04:54 PM
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Well, I'm not all that happy with BHO but, , , , this health care/prescription drug thing is SOP, regardless of who is in office.
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Originally posted by: B4UAccuseMe Someday, just maybe, the blinded pack will see what a sleaze Obama is, how he's as low as the lowest. Cheaper drugs are available, yet he'll work to keep them from the American people just to protect the profits of Big Pharma. A smart man would wonder how else he's selling out America to benefit himself and his cronies.

It can only get worse, Let's hope the smart people realize this and vote to end the reign of this corrupt abba-dabba.

Maybe, but Bush makes him look like Mother(fuggin) Teresa.  Admit it!  you azzholes are big talking "patriots"against this prez.  What were you saying when the 00 elections were stolen?  or the 08 Deibold machines.  or the lies to murder innocent civilians, or the outing of a CIA agent as retaliation for her husband calling them out on the lies? 

 You nancy boys have a feces seizures over the slightest thing he is accused of doing whether true or not.



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 06/10/2012 08:21 PM
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Ha he's right

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 06/11/2012 03:54 AM
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B4UAccuseMe

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Originally posted by: Brujo and that's 1 of the reasons why he sucks.  And yet the Repugnicans don't mention it or gitmo or killing under age citizens without due process.  They have no problem spewing lies.  I guess as long as he's helping their masters,  then he's an American born white man.

ARe you in therapy? How can you agree Obama's a sleaze, but blame his sleaziness on Republicans not mentioning it? And just where haven't they been mentioning it? FOX is full of their mentioning it; so is NSR. Obama's fuckups are all Obama's, not Bush's, and not the Republicans. Bush is a dead issue; your trying to pin every mistake Obama makes on Bush is the sign of a weak and twisted mind.



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 06/11/2012 04:51 AM
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Originally posted by: B4UAccuseMe
Originally posted by: Brujo and that's 1 of the reasons why he sucks.  And yet the Repugnicans don't mention it or gitmo or killing under age citizens without due process.  They have no problem spewing lies.  I guess as long as he's helping their masters,  then he's an American born white man.

ARe you in therapy? How can you agree Obama's a sleaze, but blame his sleaziness on Republicans not mentioning it? And just where haven't they been mentioning it? FOX is full of their mentioning it; so is NSR. Obama's fuckups are all Obama's, not Bush's, and not the Republicans. Bush is a dead issue; your trying to pin every mistake Obama makes on Bush is the sign of a weak and twisted mind.

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.  Faux and Repugnicans are always saying negative schitt but they're all lies.  If you were to complain over his actual deeds, that would be undermining Bushes policies.  



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 06/11/2012 05:15 AM
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FOX lies no more than does MSNBC or the NY Times. As far as "Bush policies," will you ever wake up to the fact that Bush is no longer president, and that no matter what he did when he was, they have no effect whatsoever on what Obama does now. People are sick of you progs trying to blame all of Obama's fuckups on Bush, or any of a half-dozen other handy bogeymen. You guys backed a loser, and that's that. Man up and admit it.



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 06/11/2012 05:28 AM
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Originally posted by: B4UAccuseMe
Man up and admit it.

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 06/11/2012 05:37 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H..._of_the_United_States

Who backed Bush? You don't have to admit it, because I was on this forum before he was even in office.

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 06/11/2012 05:55 AM
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B4UAccuseMe

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I also backed Kennedy. So what? We're not talking about them; we're talking about Obama. And, in case you haven't noticed, Obama's headed towards being the worst president ever.



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 06/11/2012 05:56 AM
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 06/11/2012 06:05 AM
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TheLetterTBird

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You backed Bush.

You have not manned up and admitted that you backed a loser.
And, unlike Obama, there is objective data on his status as such (see article).
Until you do so, it is hypocritical to make any demands.

Why does it always take two or three posts to explain something that should be obvious?
Your stupefaction is exhausting.

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 06/11/2012 10:35 AM
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I did it--singlehandedly guaranteed Bushs' election!

http://news.yahoo.com/obamas-collaboration-big-pharma-exposed-171922747.html



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 06/11/2012 10:40 AM
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Brujo

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this is why you should never rent to or from a repugnican.  If you rent to one, he'll trash it, move on then say you can't blame him.  If you rent from one, you show up to a residence filled with schitt, then be told you have to clean it up by yourself because that other guy moved out and you can't blame him.



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